cal mag issue or in that line??

[r3m1]

so yesterday i noticed spots that are small on some of the leafs of a few plants. now i don't over water them at all, or over nut them. I feed every other water, but i changed today and just gave it a water. My ph keeps going up to 7.5-8, i can only bring down to about a 7 ph, lowest i placed my ph at is 5 and that was today and the soils showing a ph of 7ish now. if i check later they might be back at 7.5 ish. should i lower the ph down to 4? attached is a few pics i took yesterday. I am more so think cal-mag needs to be added as i haven't added in this week.

tap water sit for 3-4 days in 5 gal water cont.
coco/original roots 65/45 mix
AN line
no ppm meter but meter in pic waiting on new meters to arrive.
hand water, 2-3 days rough but i monitor through out day and if need i feed or water
feed water feed schedule
2 t5 8 bulb 4 foot lights and a 4 bulb 4 foot light.
6x8x7 room
temps 77-81
humidity 40%-55%
ventilation in and out
fans moving leafs with light movment with small random burst of a little bit more from intake.

ph i cant seem to keep under 7.25 at soil so i wanted to know if i should bring water ph to like 4 since 5 is pushing 7 or 7.5
also if cal-mag etc is cause of bumps

forgot to add lights are 36-42" from tops of plant.
buckets are either 7gal air pots or 5 gal for the smaller ones.

found a bug on under leave!!! white with black lines ball like bug

[OzBud]

have you checked thoroughly for pests?

[South Sierra Dude]

Well while you're waiting for the dr and the las. I'll take a stab at my woefully inadequate opinion. Mites and/or PH.

[Weed Pharma]

I have found that those types of ph meters are terrible and I do not use mine for that reason.
You should be trying to drift through the ph range - not overcompensate and then back again.
Looks like thrip damage to me.

[Tika]

I grow in coco perlite mix. All past grows in Flora trio GH.
i am repeating myself here ..so just my opinion:
i am thrilled with my BlueLab pH pen. I consider it very reliable.
i pH to 6 - 6.1 feed or plain water...drain to waste.
are the spots kind of silver-ish? With little black poo on underside of leaves? If so could be Thrips.
i consider pH to be ones great concern. BlueLab is easy to calibrate ( even I can do it) follow instructions and it will serve you well.
hang in there & best regards

[r3m1]

nothing on the plants but some soil specks that might get on leafs or etc, but i and blow them off easy. thrips any other signs id see besides on plant?

[r3m1]

i have starting bring ph down i started at 6.5 then to 6.0 now at 5.0 using drops to test. i have been spraying for bugs since day one with azatrol insecticide
, just sprayed yesterday for 3rd time. i prob spend majority of my day looking them over, and i pay close attention to them.

meter works for the most part, like i said i monitor my ph thru water before any fed or water, i check with the soil meter but i dont trust to fullest. but i had checked water with drops then that and it was reading same.

nothing is flying around or bug wise, besides the occasional spider or ant. i cant seem to see any pest on the plants either

[Royal Nugs]

Azatrol usually leaves a glossy sheen on the leaves. I'm not seeing it on yours. How are you diluting it? How are you applying it?

[r3m1]

yea i was every 5 days was due tomm, maybe i made to weak i remade and made 1/2 oz to a gal. i just added a 2nd app of it before bed, will due tomorrow morning and night.

[Royal Nugs]

Looks like mites or thrips. I'm guessing the former. I hope I'm wrong. Spinosad usually wrecks thrips. Mites are a different story...

[r3m1]

mites is what i am thinking, i posted pic but not best, im using azatrol insecticide but been told to try avid, also seems like it not a big issue yet.

[Royal Nugs]

Get them off the concrete too. Put a cardboard box under them or something. Concrete sucks warmth from anything it comes in contact with.

[r3m1]

concrete is actually pretty warm lol, but ill lay some of the peaice of wood or reflective sheets i have under them

[Green75]

1....really looks like bugs..thrips..
2...the meter in the picture..is that also your ph meter?
3...I'm waiting for answer before I continue...

[r3m1]

it starts to run out, in which i let sit for 10 mins drain let sit for another 10 if more i dump it again then an hour after do the same.

[Green75]

Flood it with ph 6 water....a bunch of it....way more than what you are putting in there....do this again after it dries out...


Address the bug situation as well...really really look closer..do you have a magnifier...

[r3m1]

yup found a bug on the younger clones, bigger plants seem unaffected but ill be spending some time in their to check them all. i posted a pic but its not the best i have shaky hands. ive been using azatrol insecticide but ive also been told to try avid? what should i do lol im reading on mites currently as thats what it looks like

[South Sierra Dude]

nothing is flying around or bug wise, besides the occasional spider or ant.

Ants have the same issue humans have. We are not just primary consumers also we are secondary consumers. Scientists don't know how but ants wrangle other bugs like cattle. Kill the ants or your bug problem is permanent.

[Royal Nugs]

This is definitely true with aphids. Aphids swap sugar for ant bodyguards.

[r3m1]

i killed the one ant i saw in my entire house. i keep the rest fairly cold 65-68. should i pull them spray room and then let air out for a day?

[South Sierra Dude]

Who cares answer Green.

[r3m1]

fuck fuck fuck i have bugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
found one on under leaf!!!!!

added pic's seems like its not a bad case as only 1 or two plants are being effected as of now, should i spray the azatrol insecticide on the under leafs as well?
thinking spider mites?

[r3m1]

just did, had to post and get a smoke im pissed!!!!!!!!

[r3m1]

should i just clip leaf and get better pic due to having anxiety so bad from ptsd?

[furrysparkle]

Chill r3m1 yes u can clip the affected leaves but you should still spray for them and add a fan to keep your leaves tussling around so no bugs latch on!

[Green75]

Start with a good defo....yes
name your bug and kill them....
Flood your pots with 6 ph....a couple times...it will come down

[r3m1]

spider mites i can see webs on under side and i watched one move around took a video of it, i drenched the plants tops and bottoms with azatrol insecticide not thinking its going to work i am thinking avid next?

[Tika]

Better photo would be good of bug..
in the mean time ( and I know the panic believe me!) what is the culprit? Try not to smash it before you photo it like I did.
You will fix this!

[Royal Nugs]

It's a mite! See the eggs? They multiply fast.

Time to go to war.

[r3m1]

yup i watch one walk on the leaf took a video actually

[Green75]

Kill'em all......


Anyone know the reference..?

[Royal Nugs]

Metallica?

[Green75]

I knew you would be the one...haha

Bros from different mos....

[Potted]

Let god sort them out