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  • alltatup
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    Sounds very good!! Just make sure you don't get any water in your cannabutter!

  • alltatup
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    WWW: I'd try a small amt. in the oven. Oven temps fluctuate a lot and you risk losing a lot of terpenes--that's what I've read on Ardent's website.

  • LurkingInTheGrass
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    comes out a little fibery - texture of a bran or oat muffin (not like a brownie anymore)

  • Farmall
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    This is a similiar recipe in the Magical Butter Machine book. I have their decarb box and thermometer which I’d suppose is to keep the oven temps around 240 and the silicone box helps to retain the odors within the box. As I understand it so far...the Ardent Nova decarbing is so efficient. The resulting product is significantly improved for potency.

    Of course what’s not to say the the claim is huge and the performance is not so huge....we’ll find out and time will tell. If the performance is that good, it easily extends the harvested volume by a lot. Since you’ll need less. A friend used the magical butter machine to make cannabutter and other than a greenish color, it went right back in the butter stick molds and wrapped up in it original paper. He wound up with 8 full 1/4 lb sticks.

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  • CaptPicard
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    So, today I made my first batch of cannabutter. I have a cannabis cookbook that is very good and it tells you that when you decarb you weed it does in fact increase potency slightly. Of course it doesn't say how exactly with any stats/tests. It basically states if you are trying to maximize thc content in your edible cooking products you should decarb it. I crumbled it up and put it in a covered casserole dish for 20min at 250F. The instructions in the book also says that most recipes tell you to grind up your stuff finely, however this book specifically states not to pulverize it into dust. The THC is on the weed not in it. Pulverizing to a fine powder will only introduce more plant matter - which we leave a more pronounced taste of cannabis (some dont like that - i dont mind it ).

    I used:
    - 14 grams (1/2oz) of decarbed weed
    - 7 grams of trim (also decarbed in the same dish above)
    - 1 1/4 cups of unsalted butter (they say use unsalted as most recipes call for unsalted, more than likely you'll be adding salt to the recipe itself)
    - cheese cloth

    1. Throw all that in a crock pot on low for 6 hours.
    2. Let cool and dump/scrape into cheese cloth (which is over a large bowl)
    3. Squeeze everything out into the bowl. As much as possible
    4. Dump that into an airtight container.
    -- After that I did more research and found that you could potentially get more. See below, comments welcome --
    5. Pour a hot kettle of water over the left over cheese cloth/ plant material ball.
    6. Squeeze all of the water out of that (When cool) and into the same bowl you used earlier
    7..... This is where I am at currently... Apparently the water and the oil butter will separate. Sounds logical, oil on top of water. once separated you can skim the top and get the excess.

    If anyone has any comments on any above - it would be greatly appreciated.

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  • WeirdWiredWolf
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    I've been looking into the Nova, but price is the question (now that the IRS is basically closed, who knows when or if I get a refund this year). I might try a small amount in my Decarbox/oven and see what happens...our oven can be wonky with temps so I guess the question there is how much of my harvests(s) do I want to gamble that way? I remember in college a buddy used to decarb in a microwave but I've heard not-great things about that method.

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  • alltatup
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    Farmall Yes, they are always very busy selling their product. I like the fact it's not mass production.

  • Farmall
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    Hey Alltatup, thanks for helping to clarify this.... I’ll send you the place I read this.. Also, it takes 2-3 weeks for shipping unless you pay the expedited shipping which negates the $30.00 discount..

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  • uncledoug
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    alltatup, Guess I'll have to try it and see. Funny how some say its so much better and others don't notice any difference..

  • alltatup
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    uncledoug Yes!! I've left some of my Nov. harvest curing, traded some to friends and decarbed some to use. My weed buddy loves the decarb and swears by its increased potency. It gets me high too, but I can only compare it to some fresh bud I tried after it dried, which was pretty harsh.

    OGKush and NL been curing for 8 weeks now; I'm shooting for 12 weeks and then I'll try it. But everything I'm vaping right now has been decarbed.

  • uncledoug
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    alltatup, Have you tried decarb in your Ghost?

  • alltatup
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    The Ardent Nova is a precision machine that will not evaporate terpenes, and the bud comes out of it still quite pliable, a beautiful brown/gold color with incredible aromas. It's like the Nova performs a 2 hour cure--I really think that's what it does.

    Farmall I'd be interested in reading the information you refer to: I never read on ARdent's website that decarbing in the Nova makes the bud more potent, which would mean that it does do the same thing as curing, which is to continue converting some of the precursor cannabinoids to THC. Can you send me a link?

    THC requires heat to become psychoactive. You can read about decarboxylation in a million places. When you combust, you burn away a lot of the good stuff, which is why vaping is much more efficient than smoking (use less and extract more chemicals rather than burn them up). Smoking, ancient custom that it is, is the least efficient way of getting high. I'm not saying it doesn't work: it just isn't as efficient at extracting chemicals as vaping and other forms of ingestion.

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  • Rwise
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    I have tried smoking what was decarbed, what I found was the taste was killed, the high was the same (if any dif it was not noticeable)

  • Rwise
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    Back in the day we called it toasting, and did it on top of the stove in a dry pan (yes it was easy to f up), brownies turned out very good, as long as you didn't burn the weed in the pan,,,!

  • Toker1
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    So if you check out lab test results you will see two things that are of interest here. THC and THC-A. The plant creates THC-A (it’s an acid). Drying and curing converts some of the THC-A into THC (activates it).
    Yes, more active THC does lead to more euphoria.... but putting a flame or heating coil to THC-A also decarbs it into THC. A minimal amount remains unconverted after this process.
    During the decarb process, something else happens... terpenes vaporize. The desired flavor vaporizes at a much lower temperature in comparison.
    So if you decarb prior to smoking... you will enhance the THC while removing desired terpenes that give us that flavorful smoke we love.

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