Harvest Window Confusion

[UrbZ]

So I am having sort of an issue with one of my strains.

The strain is The Black. It's an Indica dominant pheno. Its flowering period is suppose to be 10 weeks. I am currently in week 6 of flower.

1 of the plants is showing heavy red/orange hairs already. With curling in already starting as well.

The second plant is a bit further behind, it's just starting to get some orange coloring.

So heres my confusion is this too early. I pretty sure the breeding is correct, the leaves are turning very dark purple/black like strain info says. But they seem they are gonna be done way earlier than 10 weeks.

Nebula mentions a harvest window once hairs are like this but there is no way its only week 6.

Thanks for any input.

[UrbZ]

You can see how dark the hairs are on this plant.

[Locrian99]

What do the trichromes look like

[UrbZ]

Haven't started even checking yet cause its so early. I havent even checked my 8 week strains and they are closer. But even they dont have as many orange hairs.

[Locrian99]

They do look odd, very dark. 2nd one has a real burnt look to it. I’d worry about what thevtrichromes look like as far as harvest would be curious what’s causing that though.

[UrbZ]

Just starting turn on this plant.

[UrbZ]

Locrian99

Here is a pic from leafly of finished product..Hairs look pretty similar. Also leafly says harvest between 8 and 10 weeks. That is a large window imo. Everywhere else says closer to 10 weeks. Maybe its time to start watching triches on all 7 plants. Its just sad these plants really needed that extra time to plump. I hope this isnt them being ready. Its all popcorn nugs...

[Campesino]

Curious what the trichomes look like and really think we need to see that before coming to any conclusions.

[UrbZ]

I will be pulling the loupe out today. Getting in there nice and deep like... 😉

[Weed Pharma]

I use these factors to consider the "Harvest Window":

Most - to all hairs- dark and curled, with new hair growth slower than the rate of dark/curling.
Amber trichomes.

Once I see any ambers- the harvest window begins and I start feeding water/molasses only, then water only after a week.
The harvest window comes to a close once the plant reduces the amount of water uptake.

If you see gray trichomes, you have gone too far!

If you are using LED's the hairs and colors can get pretty diverse from what you read from the seed company- as everything is based on 5 gal containers under 1000w HPS lighting.
I also find that LED's are ready to harvest sooner by about 10 days.

[UrbZ]

Weed Pharma so the earliest time frame I have read for the black is 53 days of flowering. Today is day 41. So wednesday will be 10 days early. If you are correct in that i may be done early should I just feed with water and my Turbonated Brown Sugar until harvest?

[Weed Pharma]

You really can not use the seed companies guide to determine when to harvest.

Use the above info when to begin plain water (with molasses if desired) and continue using the trichomes as your guide.

Depending on the strain&pheno- you may be want to harvest in a few days or a couple of weeks- but you will have the plants ready by removing the nutrients from the equation!

[UrbZ]

Thats actually perfect. I will feed water and my brown sugar only from here on out. Luckily if you can say lucky.. I had a sick plant that made me flush all of them with flawless finish already. So none have had nutes already for near a week except 1 plant. I dont know if already leeching the soil of nutrients will hurt or not if they do have much longer to go.

[D.A.A.S.69]

Morning urbz, what I've found is, I've had a bunch of different plants with red hairs,, early, like within a couple of weeks, so the plants are all gonna be a little different.
I would strictly go by the trichs, as for harvesting, an by taking a sample or two ,if they are slow showing amber.
They don't all show amber, but most do.

[UrbZ]

Just starting to watch em today.

[alltatup]

I totally agree with DAAS. I had all the pistils turn yellow and shrivel at least 2 weeks before all the triches turned cloudy w/ a little amber.

[PaganRich]

I go for a rough feel looking at the hairs-and I can see why your thoughts are as they are-however it`s always the trichs that decide for me plus one week added roughly. The only thing I`d say is the buds look small and I would suspect that the set-up or a variation of the strain may be a factor here. It`s tricky cos you`re almost being forced against your instinct to harvest. I`ve had grows like these and quite frankly they are a real pain in the backside because you`re between a rock and a hard place. My advice, check your set-up and don`t get too hooked on what the flowering guidance states because that`s a variant in itself and just work on eyes/ trichs. Have your other grows/ strains run good? Hope it works out, mate

[PaganRich]

UrbZ....for a first harvest you have done excellently, mate. The leaves are great, no burn tips which alone is very impressive and good looking plants....lots of positives to take away from this. Next grow going to be even better. You`ve done really well, mate. Should feel proud with what you`ve achieved to date

[UrbZ]

Thanks a lot man.

Its been tough going I planted my first seeds in october. only 1 plant made it from that batch. It was just random bagseed from some cherry pie. that plant was a full hermie. Covered in sacs 2 weeks into flower had to kill it, this plant tought me good feeding and watering habits though. So I bought some seeds and then had the opportunity to buy some rare genetics from a local breeder. The entire grow went well, until about a week ago. The purple urkle got sick. Shes pretty gnarly looking from a far. Her buds are green but the water leaves are yellow bad. The other 6 started showing same symptoms but got them corrected quick enough they never really suffered. It has been a great learning experience for sure. I am excited to get this first harvest over though for sure.

[PaganRich]

I`ve been growing for just over 2 years and it`s only recently It`s come togeether for me...likewise, massive learning curve here...so you`ve done really well in comparison. Look forward to your future grows

[UrbZ]

Unfortunatley out of my 7 strains the 2 Blacks, the purple urkle and the grape god are from a local breeder. He sells fully rooted 4 node tall seedlings for 10 dollars each. He wont sell seeds and he asks you not to clone his genetics when you buy from him. He is old school been growing since the 80s. So anyway I have to take his word that the genetics are what he says they are. From pictures they seemed right on.

Its just been very confusing for a first grow. A lot of stuff thrown at me at once. 4 strains and 7 plants looks like all are nearing harvest at the same time.

[UrbZ]

So I checked all 7 plants today. From the looks most are clear on all 7 there are some cloudy triches but no amber in sight. The other 6 strains are further behind The Blacks on red hairs but all 7 do have them.

[UrbZ]

1 bud from each torpedo.

[UrbZ]

The Grape God

[UrbZ]

The Black 1

[alltatup]

They sound like they are on track.

[UrbZ]

I'm on day 41 of flowering now on all 7 plants. I am just going to give nutes one last time. Then begin to flush and start watching triches closely. Even the blacks I guess. According to leafly it can be ready as early as 8 weeks as well.

[UrbZ]

Looks more like no nutes until harvest actually.

[UrbZ]

The Black 2

[UrbZ]

Purple Urkle

[BlueBudz]

Looking good!

[BlueBudz]

You’ll be fine! It’s just gonna get a bit stinky!

[UrbZ]

@BlueBudz

You are not lying! Today was by far the stinkiest day walking into the room. It hit me like a train. The odor is fairly euphoric in itself. Strong aroma of bubble gum from the 3 torpedoes and a unmistakable green weed smell from the other 3 strains. 🙃

[BlueBudz]

👍 mine are stinking the joint up too! Trying to keep the door closed!