Growing and going full tilt No Till

[Paracelsus]

This FIM Worked out very well I think I’ll get four new colas out of this but I shouldn’t count my eggs or chickens or Easter eggs before they hatch LOL

[RosettaStoned]

I try to follow that life rule as well

[Paracelsus]

C-O-L-A Cola

[GreenhouseEffect]

Uh oh, is one of your plants really a male? And will you name it Lola?

[GreenhouseEffect]

No, just reffering to the Lola song posted,the leericks of Lola actually turning out to be a guy and all made me think one of Parcelsus plants had turned out to be male. Guess it would be a little too soon for that. Wish I was that good at telling early on though, I could mybe get payed to look at Pot plants all day!

[GreenhouseEffect]

Didn't really get the Cola, as in Cola bud part right away, I'm a little dense sometimes......

[Paracelsus]

Yes it is the C-O-L-A cola riff that hooked me.
Every plant has the potential to turn hermaphrodite. Different strokes for different folks. Like the song says,That’s the way that I want it to stay and it’s always going to be that way with Lola L-O-L-A Lola

[Paracelsus]

Paracelsus here, I need a quick answer about the Veg light period. Since day 1 my lights have been on 24/7 but this afternoon I have a visitor coming for a housing inspection I have once every 3 years. I want to put the plants in the closet while they are here,

5 hours at the most.

In the unlikely event they arrive on time it could be as little as 15 minutes until they leave. They are giving me a 5 hour window in the afternoon when they will arrive.

What I want to do is put them back on 24/7 as soon as they leave.

1) Will that stress the plants?
2). Will the plant at just less than 26 days above ground go into flower with 5 hours or less of total darkness?
3) Lastly can I go back to 24/7 or do I have to stay on 19/5

thank you friends

[oldjarhead100]

I think they will be fine as long as you get them back under light as soon as he leaves ,I use to have my veg at 18/6 and they never went into bloom so I think your good

[alltatup]

Exactly right, OJH. I always veg 18/6. Paracelsus, your plants will just get a little shut eye.

[KingKush]

Ditto. The ladies actually might like a break from the sun, I veg 18/6 also and they always stay in veg.
It takes a week or more of 12/12 on older plants to initiate budding
Stay safe, your girls will be patiently waiting, growing like weeds

[Deadhead91]

I noticed you get a lot more growth under the 18/6 verses the 24/0 I did 3 weeks 24/0 and a week of 18/6 then to 12/12 for less of a shock switching to flowering and I got the most growth under 18/6 it got smelly but That and the growth is all I got

[Tika]

Yup...What they said😊

[GreenhouseEffect]

I agree, I have had light disprepensees like that before, and they have pretty much been fine, maybe a little leaf droop for a day, but no flowering or real problems.

[Paracelsus]

The guy came and left in about five minutes the plants were in the dark for about two hours. Before he came And after I have been a busy boy as I had to move furniture and change the set up in the living room so I wouldn’t bring attention to the T5 deck underneath my wine bar incubator LOL . So before he came I lollipoped all 4 plants. Then I put them to bed for a nap. After he left before I moved the furniture back to the way it was I transplanted the three remaining plants into 1 gallon containers with new LOS Living Organic Soil, worm castings and Lobster Compost. When I transplanted them I also had to adjust the light. I’ve got them hanging on Zip ties. I got Rid of the crates and put them inside a rolling drawer that comes in and out easily from underneath the light. I’m going downtown tonight to hear some music so I’m going to leave in about an hour, hopefully all will be well when I get home after midnight.

[Paracelsus]

Lisa Burns, I have known here since I was14. We used to talk on the phone every morning when I first started in the music business

[oldjarhead100]

Its gotta suck to have to do all that extra work just to camo your grow but if thats what you have to do to stay safe then I applaud you , Plants are looking great.
I like her voice it kinda sultry .
If you ever have a chance to see Darren Besett check him out hes a friend of mine just got signed by a record company

[Deadhead91]

I heard the dead are supposed to do another tour not sure yet

[Paracelsus]

Indoor Temperature 75 F 58% RH

Plants grew like weeds overnight put on an inch or two the lights that I lowered yesterday I had to raise today. I also removed the sliding drawer and lower the plants because I was getting some burnt edges on the a few leaves on 2 of the plants. I don’t think it is because of the transplant because I transplanted one of them last week into the 3 gallon pot.

[Paracelsus]

Well Deadhead91 that’s what I thought too. But I transplanted that one a on March 30th and the others on the 3rd after I took them out of the closet dark for three Hours. I also lowered the lights at that time. They didn’t shoaw any burn at all, nutrient or otherwise, until the next morning on two out of the four plants. I had just lollipop’d them too so maybe they were a little stressed from the transplant, lollipop, and besides moving the light the air temperature and humidity changed somewhat. From the lower 80s with 65% humidity to mid 70s and a 50% humidity. Since after I moved them they have not shown anymore damage to the leaves. Also besides transplanting them into better soil than I started with all I have been feeding them is straight water.

[Deadhead91]

That is so random and probably was a combo of it all together but I would leave it till you get more of the big leaves

[Paracelsus]

Give me 15 minutes I’m going to make another post below

[Paracelsus]

[oldjarhead100]

the first one is looking fantastic the second one looks healthy but why the lime green ?

I hope you dont mind but I will be putting one of the venture tea maker that you posted finally got all the parts in , I stopped in to HTG supply and they had one running ,they give away tea on Tuesdays it was much bigger but worked great thanks for posting it

[Paracelsus]

The lime green one is because that picture is directly under the T5 light maybe the flash was on too. Did you see the burnt edges on the leaves of both plants. I’m not sure if I’m going to leave them on? I believe they will still photosynthesize but I don’t believe they will ever heal either.
Be careful With tea from the store, If it’s not a fresh batch it could be anaerobic if older than 24 hours or have raw compost if it’s less than 24. Let’s see some pictures or maybe a build thread. I don’t mind at all that’s why I share

[Deadhead91]

I’d leave it till the next set of leaves get bigger at least so you don’t take the energy maker from it.

[Paracelsus]

That’s what I’m going to do deadhead

[Paracelsus]

These pictures are all of the same plant, but they are to address two different problems.

1) this is the Jedi OG that was the first to be transplanted on March 30 into a 3 gallon container. It was extremely healthy when I transplanted it and it was reaching for the sky looking really happy the morning I was inspected. Since then I lowered the light and then raise it back up again and lowered the plant because brown edges appeared on one of those larger van leaves. Now on the sister leave on the other side of the node the edges are curling Up add in I think you call it cupping but the edges are crinkly. That will be the first picture.

2) Perhaps a week ago I FIM’d all four plants. This same plant with the cupping leaves is the one that the FIM did not work and perhaps it became a top. The new growth is weird I’m not sure what’s happening. The new trainingit hasn’t grown very much only a fraction since I trained the plant. On a node below the FIM is also showing new growth on a different node. I’m not sure what to do because of the angle it’s hard to see I have included several pictures please take a look everyone and give me your opinion as too what I should do as far as developing this particular reaction to the FIM.

oldjarhead100 TikaBlueBudz NebulaHaze Deadhead91
I transplanted this one a on March 30th and the others on the 3rd after I took them out of the closet dark for three Hours. I also lowered the lights at that time. They didn’t shoaw any burn at all, nutrient or otherwise, until the next morning on two out of the four plants. I had just lollipop’d them too so maybe they were a little stressed from the transplant, lollipop, and besides moving the light the air temperature and humidity changed somewhat. From the lower 80s with 65% humidity to mid 70s and a 50% humidity. Since after I moved them they have not shown anymore damage to the leaves. Also besides transplanting them into better soil than I started with all I have been feeding them is straight water.

[Paracelsus]

Tika unfortunately I don’t do pH at all, I don’t have the pH meter even. I have been flying without instruments since the beginning of the grow. I began on a very tight budget and bought everything seconds hand or I improvised DIY.
I am supposedly able to just use straight water and I use the knuckle deep method to decide when they need watering which I do mostly once a day in the 3 gallon pot with about 16 oz of aged tap water that I keep in a barrel. That amount just gives me a smidgen of run off. Other than what is in the soil I mulch feed the worms once a week with a changing variety of mint, cilantro, malted barley powder, oats, and farina with a top dress that keeps the top of the soil damp underneath it but works as an IPM too. During the day every 6 hours I moisten the soil surface with a spray bottle. Additionally I soak and wring out towels and make a tent around my wine bar incubator to keep the humidity hi during these dry winter months with centralized heat constantly running. If I didn’t keep the window open the ambient temperature would be in the high 80s with very dry air. Besides the towels I keep a five gallon pot on the stove simmering low my fan is close by dispersing the vapor throughout the Grow room. I know it’s all very unorthodox but it has a certain rhythm that has worked well so far.

[Paracelsus]

Deadhead91 since all of the plants are in the same soil mix with no change since the beginning of the grow other than the addition of worms and worm castings I can’t understand how it could be nute burn. However this is the only plant out of the four that is this dark green. About possible wind burn that won’t be a problem for a week or so now my fan stopped working lol

[BlueBudz]

Well I’m also not soil but I had almost the same thing a few weeks ago in my DWC. I believe it was a ph problem, I moved lights and adjusted fans etc but in the end he only variable was the ph. Or a mistake mixing nutrients, but obviously not your issue. Now being in soil from what I hear PH isn’t as crucial because of natural buffers.. not sure I can offer much help

[GreenhouseEffect]

According to the Fiming tutorial, it will cause the initial new growth to be kinda weird at first. The cupping looks a lot like a bit to much heat. I think you mentioned the T-5 being really close for a while? I have caused light burn on mine before when they grew to pretty much touching the bulb, I wonder if it burned the leaf, and caused some cupping? Just a couple thoughts I had, not saying that's definitely it though.

Soil PH range is 6-7, if you have a good microbe hurd, with plenty of organic matter, it should adjust the PH for you in soil, definitely can't hurt to check it just to make sure though!

[Paracelsus]

This is what seems most likely to me heat and being too close to the light. Like I said after the transplant when I initially lowered the light and remove the crates the plants all four of them looked spectacular well perky and pointed upward or at least horizontal spread. Now this plant is not drooping but it isn’t elevated at all either. So right now since I’m not in a hurry to flip all the plants are six or 7 inches from the T fives where as before they were 2 inches. Maybe a little patience and time will help the plants adjust to the change in environment. I think I’m going to go to 18/6 light schedule starting tonight with 4 hours of darkness.