Greetings!
I’m new to the world of indoor gardening. I’ve had success with several small outdoor grows over the years for fun, but never used any nutrients or other training and even used the dreaded miracle grow many of the times.
However, this year was a different story. I had a difficult time getting any of my very old bagseed to germinate and finally had about 15 seedlings. Several didn’t make it and of the remainder that were mostly flourishing were either male or were eaten by deer. So, I finished the rest of the eaten plants and called them low grow #1 and low grow #2. Of the three remaining of the 5 that were side by side, I called left plant, middle plant and right plant. Unfortunately, the far right plant was a male that got away from me and ended up giving me a few seeds from a few of them. Middle plant was loaded with seeds, but the buds were still nice. This was actually my finest outdoor harvest and had I used any nutes, I would have had an even better harvest.
I was very excited to have some new seeds since my 20+ year old bagseed supply was thinning and I had no idea about the genetics of any of them. I also thought it was cool that the male gave me some new variety over the three plants. All three were similar in height, with left plant being the stinkiest and smelled the best when you approached them. So far, only one seed from left plant. I figured I’d use the seeds from this year for next year’s grow since I have had success planting second generation seeds in the past.
After meticulously following the great curing tutorials on this site (since I ruined most of my last year’s attempt by not following closely enough), I started reading other sections of the site and came across the ‘how to get seeds’ section. After a lot of reading and figuring why the hell not, I decided to follow along and order some fem seeds online. I chose mainly outdoor strains with high THC content and one with higher CBD content as something to try out for next year.
While I waited for the seeds to arrive, I kept reading the section on indoor growing and started thinking seriously about an indoor garden. I knew I wanted next season’s crop to have a much higher yield and was studying proper nutrition and looking at ways to self-water, etc., and that got me thinking that maybe I don’t need to wait until Spring to grow again. I was sort of holding off about making a decision until the seeds arrived. If they made it safely, I might just go ahead and take the plunge. So, they did and here I am with the operational setup listed below.
Genetics: Feminized Swiss Cheese (Nirvana seeds) & Feminized Amnesia Haze (Royal Queen Seeds – Freebie)
Starting Medium: Soil (1/2 Fox Farms Happy Frog, 1/2 perlite)
Final Medium: Soil (Fox Farms Ocean Forest)
Grow Area: 3 ft x 3 ft x 6 ft grow tent
Light: Platinum LED P4-XML2
Base Nutrients: General Hydroponics Floranova Grow & Bloom
Supplemental Nutrients: Advanced Nutrients Bud Candy & Cal-Mag, Sour-Dee, URB Natural, Mammoth P, Hi-Brix Molasses
The seeds took a couple of weeks to arrive and I was still hemming and hawing about the size of tent, where I would put it, should I even invest in the an indoor garden, etc. Then I had a long conversation with a good friend (who actually passed away the very next day) who convinced me to go for it with the taller tent that I could make space for. I ordered everything I needed and thanks to Amazon, I had nearly everything I needed a couple days later. I got the tent setup and dialed everything in before the light arrived.
With my friend’s unexpected passing, I decided to dedicate my first indoor grow to him. I was hoping to have his help and guidance form his past experience, so instead, I will rely on this great community for assistance and will celebrate my friend through my garden.
I have done a significant amount of research on LED grow lights and was very excited to finally get it up and running. My light on arrived on 11/13 and seeds were placed in glass of water then into a paper towel for another day or so. With taproots growing, I then placed in a solo cup with 1/2 perlite, 1/2 Happy Frog with drainage holes in bottom and a plastic bag over each cup for added humidity. They popped 2 days later the same day as my friend’s funeral.
It’s now day 9 from seed and the seedlings are 2.5 inches tall with a bit too much stretch for my liking, so I placed a box under the tray and added an oscillating fan in place of a non oscillating fan I had clipped to a corner pole. (I have a second corner pole fan up higher in the tent for additional circulation. I wasn’t sure when to turn on the inline fan, but I have had it running on medium+ and the tent is bowing in, so I know there is airflow cycling.
I was originally all excited to try MammothP after my research until I came across something called URB Natural. I have been adding a small drink to the seedlings and trying to avoid overwatering. The light manufacturer recommends using the XML (boost) light for seedlings/clones until the first leaf set it formed, then switch it over to the VEG switch only until later veg state. I originally had the seedlings under the VEG only with a distance of 38” and they seemed to be fine, but after they called me back and suggested the white light only, I took their advice. However, with the stretch overnight, I think I might have been better off going back to the VEG switch. I’ll keep an eye on them today and see if being closer to the light helps. I think I’ll make the switch to VEG mode tomorrow.
That was one thing I was having trouble getting a definitive answer on with regard to seedlings. When is she no longer a seedling? The consensus seems to that it’s in veg state and no longer a seedling when the first set of leaves are grown.
I decided to get more light on them and changed the light distance to 24" with the VEG only switch for the last 5 hours of the light cycle last night and they seem to be responding favorably to the added light, URB and the oscillating fan.
The biggest challenge right now is getting the temp/humidity to stabilize. I'm getting some dips to the high 40% RH even with the humidifier set to 65%, but it's in a basement and it's cold out now. I'm going to reduce the inline fan speed and see if that helps to keep more humidity in the tent.
Day 11: things seem to be under way with the next set of leaves starting to pop out. I'm super excited, but am getting impatient, but I realize growth is slow as she develops her root structure. Still struggling with humidity drops, but it's only or a few moments and it bumps back up. I decided to turn off the upper corner fan and rotate the output of the humidifier to be right at the plants, which is inline with the oscillating fan. I'm hoping this helps to boost the humidity at the plant level.
Thanks for reading!
I’m new to the world of indoor gardening. I’ve had success with several small outdoor grows over the years for fun, but never used any nutrients or other training and even used the dreaded miracle grow many of the times.
However, this year was a different story. I had a difficult time getting any of my very old bagseed to germinate and finally had about 15 seedlings. Several didn’t make it and of the remainder that were mostly flourishing were either male or were eaten by deer. So, I finished the rest of the eaten plants and called them low grow #1 and low grow #2. Of the three remaining of the 5 that were side by side, I called left plant, middle plant and right plant. Unfortunately, the far right plant was a male that got away from me and ended up giving me a few seeds from a few of them. Middle plant was loaded with seeds, but the buds were still nice. This was actually my finest outdoor harvest and had I used any nutes, I would have had an even better harvest.
I was very excited to have some new seeds since my 20+ year old bagseed supply was thinning and I had no idea about the genetics of any of them. I also thought it was cool that the male gave me some new variety over the three plants. All three were similar in height, with left plant being the stinkiest and smelled the best when you approached them. So far, only one seed from left plant. I figured I’d use the seeds from this year for next year’s grow since I have had success planting second generation seeds in the past.
After meticulously following the great curing tutorials on this site (since I ruined most of my last year’s attempt by not following closely enough), I started reading other sections of the site and came across the ‘how to get seeds’ section. After a lot of reading and figuring why the hell not, I decided to follow along and order some fem seeds online. I chose mainly outdoor strains with high THC content and one with higher CBD content as something to try out for next year.
While I waited for the seeds to arrive, I kept reading the section on indoor growing and started thinking seriously about an indoor garden. I knew I wanted next season’s crop to have a much higher yield and was studying proper nutrition and looking at ways to self-water, etc., and that got me thinking that maybe I don’t need to wait until Spring to grow again. I was sort of holding off about making a decision until the seeds arrived. If they made it safely, I might just go ahead and take the plunge. So, they did and here I am with the operational setup listed below.
Genetics: Feminized Swiss Cheese (Nirvana seeds) & Feminized Amnesia Haze (Royal Queen Seeds – Freebie)
Starting Medium: Soil (1/2 Fox Farms Happy Frog, 1/2 perlite)
Final Medium: Soil (Fox Farms Ocean Forest)
Grow Area: 3 ft x 3 ft x 6 ft grow tent
Light: Platinum LED P4-XML2
Base Nutrients: General Hydroponics Floranova Grow & Bloom
Supplemental Nutrients: Advanced Nutrients Bud Candy & Cal-Mag, Sour-Dee, URB Natural, Mammoth P, Hi-Brix Molasses
The seeds took a couple of weeks to arrive and I was still hemming and hawing about the size of tent, where I would put it, should I even invest in the an indoor garden, etc. Then I had a long conversation with a good friend (who actually passed away the very next day) who convinced me to go for it with the taller tent that I could make space for. I ordered everything I needed and thanks to Amazon, I had nearly everything I needed a couple days later. I got the tent setup and dialed everything in before the light arrived.
With my friend’s unexpected passing, I decided to dedicate my first indoor grow to him. I was hoping to have his help and guidance form his past experience, so instead, I will rely on this great community for assistance and will celebrate my friend through my garden.
I have done a significant amount of research on LED grow lights and was very excited to finally get it up and running. My light on arrived on 11/13 and seeds were placed in glass of water then into a paper towel for another day or so. With taproots growing, I then placed in a solo cup with 1/2 perlite, 1/2 Happy Frog with drainage holes in bottom and a plastic bag over each cup for added humidity. They popped 2 days later the same day as my friend’s funeral.
It’s now day 9 from seed and the seedlings are 2.5 inches tall with a bit too much stretch for my liking, so I placed a box under the tray and added an oscillating fan in place of a non oscillating fan I had clipped to a corner pole. (I have a second corner pole fan up higher in the tent for additional circulation. I wasn’t sure when to turn on the inline fan, but I have had it running on medium+ and the tent is bowing in, so I know there is airflow cycling.
I was originally all excited to try MammothP after my research until I came across something called URB Natural. I have been adding a small drink to the seedlings and trying to avoid overwatering. The light manufacturer recommends using the XML (boost) light for seedlings/clones until the first leaf set it formed, then switch it over to the VEG switch only until later veg state. I originally had the seedlings under the VEG only with a distance of 38” and they seemed to be fine, but after they called me back and suggested the white light only, I took their advice. However, with the stretch overnight, I think I might have been better off going back to the VEG switch. I’ll keep an eye on them today and see if being closer to the light helps. I think I’ll make the switch to VEG mode tomorrow.
That was one thing I was having trouble getting a definitive answer on with regard to seedlings. When is she no longer a seedling? The consensus seems to that it’s in veg state and no longer a seedling when the first set of leaves are grown.
I decided to get more light on them and changed the light distance to 24" with the VEG only switch for the last 5 hours of the light cycle last night and they seem to be responding favorably to the added light, URB and the oscillating fan.
The biggest challenge right now is getting the temp/humidity to stabilize. I'm getting some dips to the high 40% RH even with the humidifier set to 65%, but it's in a basement and it's cold out now. I'm going to reduce the inline fan speed and see if that helps to keep more humidity in the tent.
Day 11: things seem to be under way with the next set of leaves starting to pop out. I'm super excited, but am getting impatient, but I realize growth is slow as she develops her root structure. Still struggling with humidity drops, but it's only or a few moments and it bumps back up. I decided to turn off the upper corner fan and rotate the output of the humidifier to be right at the plants, which is inline with the oscillating fan. I'm hoping this helps to boost the humidity at the plant level.
Thanks for reading!
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