HELP! Why my autos turn into hermie again?

[ufzsolo]

Hey y'all

So I'm in trouble again. I started a grow 6 weeks ago with 3 tent. Kinda experimenting here what suits me the best.
SETUP No1 (hydro):
1.2*1.2*2M Secret Jardin Dark Room
2* P600 Viparspectra LED light (18-6)
8* 20L buckets
340L/h air/bucket
Gorilla Expert auto fem seeds from Seedsman
Advanced hydroponic nutes, giving them mostly bloom in the last 2 weeks
6.1PH 21C 80% humidity
LST

SETUP No2 (Soil and AN Connosieur)
1.2*1.2*2M Secret Jardin Dark Room
2* Mars hydro 1000 LED light (18-6)
8 pots, 30L each, 50% soil 50% perlite
Gorilla Expert auto fem seeds from Seedsman
AN Connosieur nutes, big bud, bud ingitor, B52
23C 65% humidity
Topping

SETUP No3 (Soil AN trio nutes)
1.2*1.2*2M Secret Jardin Dark Room
2* Mars hydro 1000 LED light (18-6)
8 pots, 30L each, 50% soil 50% perlite
Gorilla Expert auto fem seeds from Seedsman
AN grow, micro and bloom
24C 70% humidity
No train

By the way the day they went under light was 7th October.

Now the problem is the following. The SETUP No3 is absolutely fine, no issues, flowering nicely as it should be. SETUP No2 turned hermie like 3 weeks ago, had a post about it, don't know what was the problem but they just didnt want to flower at all. I changed lifecycle, stopped grow nutes and gave only bloom ones, nothing seemed to help, started growing pollen sacs everywhere, killed them. Still don't know why they turned hermie.
But now, SETUP No1 showing hermies too (see attached photo below). It doesnt want to flower at all, they literally touching the lights, I bent them down, 2 days later, grew 5 cm no flower. Have no idea why. Humidity could be lower I know, just ordered a decent dehumidifer.

Any ideas?

TIA

 

[gbauto]

I've had a few strains that did throw some nanners, and it was always caused by environmental stress.
One did it because I had to super-crop it just as it began flowering and the other was a result of supplemental 660nm led's not turning off.
I would suspect that you're just running into some bad genetics.

 

[homegrown]

Unless you have serious light leaks or have caused them undo stress(high temps,incorrect light cycle) I cant really say whats causing it. Your set up #1 and 2 is making me think you possibly had and have males. They tend to grow like crazy and will reach for light much faster than females. Its possible Seedsman screwed up and you got regular seeds and not feminized. 8 females out of 24 seeds is not a good average.

 

[dilvish]

Are you sure the seeds were auto? although I have had some good experiences with Seedsman, I have noted that sometimes they can label product incorrectly. Although the seeds are feminised they might be photo not auto.

Curious why you want to have 3 different set ups all for one strain? I could see a person doing different strains but these are all the same. If you haven't a lot of experience I'd say you are inevitably going to have issues because each grow will require different solutions.

Additionally the humidity is too high for bloom in all your grows...

 

[SoOrbudgal]

To have 3 grows and all of them hermies, man there is something very wrong going on. I think your tent or area got pollen :nah:

 

[Rwise]

My question looks at the seeds, were all these the same seed? Fem seed can carry a hermie gene, but it does look as these are males and not hermies. IF these seeds were all the same seed, try seed from someone else, even another strain/hybrid.

 

[Ckbrew]

Hermies can be just plain genetics. Feminized seeds tend to be more prone to hermie since that is how they were produced in the first place. If not that, usually from stress, heat & humidity off or fluctuating, light incorrect or light leaks.