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Water Cure Experiment

GanjaGed

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I recently found myself in a situation where I lost access to any cannabis, had a grow that was still a week or so from harvest let alone any dry/cure, and a hell-bent determination to stay off the pain meds I used to be on.

There is a small write-up on GWE about Water Curing, but it’s pretty sparse, pretty much like most posts dealing with Water Curing. The possibility of a 4-10 day process instead of the 3-10 +2 weeks times of a “normal” dry and cure was very appealing, so it was time to experiment!

This was very spur of the moment, and I didn’t track all of the things that should be, I was looking to prove or disprove the concept as viable.


The W.C. posts start here on my thread, if you are interested in reading.

Process



I ran 2 batches of trimmed bud in pint canning jars. One had buds from a soil plant and the other a hydro plant. The samples of buds were not equally sized, the hydro jar being the lesser. The soil plants were about 3 days into flush, the hydros were on flowering nutes still.

The soil was given Tap water the first day and Distilled all others. The Hydro was given Distilled all days.

PPM and PH was recorded for each drain and fill. Temp was not monitored but was not exposed to any extremes. Jars were kept in a desk drawer between water changes.

Jars were filled to top lid placed on and inverted, then was laid on side in drawer. By doing this the angle of the jar because of the lid allowed any air bubbles to travel up to the high end of the jar while the buds only went about ½ to ¾ of the way up, allowing the buds to stay totally submerged.

Buds were taken out at each water change to feel for firmness and to smell and visually examine for rot/mold/deterioration.

The hydro jar was allowed to cure for 3 days and the soil jar for 5 days. All buds were dried by fan about 12 hrs and stored in a airtight jar overnight, left out for a few hours and were done, ready for smoking.




Hydro


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7.0 - 34 --- 6.4 - 89

6.4 - 22 --- 7.5 - 49

7.4 - 21 --- 7.8 - 30 (Pull for dry)

Soil



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7.2 - 431 --- 6.8 - 525

7.6 - 20 --- 6.0 - 161

6.2 - 27 --- 6.7 - 103
6.7 - 25 --- 7.8 - 44


8.0 - 21 --- 5.7 - 37 (Pull for dry)


Results


The Buds dried very firm and compact, they were noticeably smaller than an air dried would be, and not as “bright” looking as an air dried bud. They aren’t pretty in any fashion but they don’t look hideous, imo.

There is a distinct lack of smell to the buds, I’m not sure if a dog could sniff them out or not, but no one will smell any “Bag Smell” This lack of smell extends to the burning and smoke as well. Many people wouldn’t even notice you were smoking cannabis if there was any small distance between you and a touch of tobacco or some other blending agent would mask it entirely.



The taste is quite strange, the experience is similar to drinking pure water, the “taste of no taste” if you follow. To me there was a hint of a woody, smoky flavor. I found it smooth with just a bit of hotness in the back of the throat.


I didn’t have any of the strain ready to smoke via air dry so I couldn’t really compare the highs. I will say it did what it was supposed to for me.

In my opinion:

If you are about the aesthetics of the cannabis in question Water Curing will leave you disappointed. Not pretty, no smell, no/different taste will likely be more downside than the speed and ease will be upside for you.

If you are in need of quick access to weed, need to try and save a harvest you can’t cure normally, or stealth is a major consideration this may be something of value for you to have in your bag of growing tricks. I also feel this might just be a superior way to prep cannabis for edibles and vape juices etc. the lack of smell and flavor puts that more within your control.


All in all the experiment was a success, and proves the concept, but it also leaves many things unanswered and untested.

Random Thoughts

  • PPM is a very useful measurement to determine when to pull for dry
  • PH fluctuations should be looked at more
  • A larger volume of water to bud may speed the process up even more, while more bud to water may slow it down
  • I never had the severe water discoloration I’ve often seen mentioned
  • Possible the degree of taste/smell loss is dependent on strain, also PPM/Time.
  • Different results if air dried then water cured? Possible taste/smell increase?
  • Should work for trim
  • Any taste/smell development with longer storage?
  • Should be able to replace flushing with this process
  • PH seems to carry over from drain to fill, bud rinse between?
  • H2O2 treatment somewhere in process? A possible way to save from Bud Rot?
  • Need comparisons for potency
With this I have managed to keep myself supplied through this dry spell so I’m very happy. I’ll be working on this a bit more in the future for sure, it’s just too good of an ace up the sleeve not to explore further.

Please note. I am not suggesting anyone do this and certainly not with an entire crop. If what you’ve read has an appeal I suggest copying what I’ve done for yourself and expanding from there, you can try this with just a few buds no need to risk everything. Now I will say, if you are in an emergency and it’s lose the entire crop unless you can dry cure immediately, I wouldn’t hesitate to throw it in the water before something like an oven or whatever fast dry method, the possibility of a 4 day turnaround that gives you smokable bud is much better than a certain loss.

I’m happy to answer any questions and appreciate your comments
 

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An interesting experiment and an encouraging result. Thanks for taking the time to write this up and for being so thorough!
 
I know it's done but never tried it. One of the appeals about this was there's literally no guess work. A persons climate is a total non issue. If you have a place that's room temp it will work. The procedure is the same if you live in the desert or on a snowy mountain top, which is a good quality in an emergency, plus, as far as I can tell with this limited run, if for some reason you were forced to leave, say in an evacuation or a sudden trip, there should be little or no problems for at least a week and likely longer. You simply can't over dry it, lol.

It really is just a tool to have in the box in-case needed, although some may find the stealth aspect worthy of a portion of some harvests and the potential for edibles which at the moment seems the best place to look at using it as a regular process. The possibility of salvaging some from bud rot, is intriguing also.
 
Totally agree I really liked the stealth part and for edibles and concentrates you want to flavor yourself. But like my wife and I are still paying for it 😞 And if normal minimum time to smoke is say 25 days post harvest. I have to buy 5 oz. so I'm hunting for the best method for me to dry/cure 6-7oz whilst curing the bulk of the harvest properly.
 
Tazard NO freakin way do you have to wait 25 days post harvest!!! No way. I read in Rosenthal that the cure does what it does, but when bud's harvested and dry enough to smoke, them trichomes are ready to share their bounty. I started smoking/vaping my sativa as soon as it was dry enough and it totally do what it posed to do.
 
Tazard, I am using such small amounts of nutes at the end of flowering. With the sativa, when she was done drying and I had her in jars, at around 62-64% RH she smoked great. Not sure if she smokes all that much better now because she was always SMOOOOOOOTH. Everyone who has smoked my home grown comments on how smooth it is. So curing does that magical thing, but all I'm saying is that when the bud is dry enough, it smokes good, before the extended cure.

"Curing is essential to the taste and experience of the finished buds. Like aged wines, well-cured buds are smooth and flavorful. Uncured buds will 'work' but are not nearly as enjoyable or desirable. However, curing does not make buds more potent than they already are." Ed Rosenthal, Marijuana Harvest, p. 167.

All I'm sayin is if you want to quick test your bud, or if you're all out of weed, you can smoke bud before it's completley cured. And get high. As a kite.
 
Oh for sure you can :) But depending on local conditions you can still be up to 10 days out just to dry. WC can still beat that.

But yea WC got me through until my first batch was dry the normal way, pulled enough to last a couple weeks while the majority gets a good cure. I would always choose the aesthetics over a WC except in certain situations/applications. It's a tool in the toolbox,

I'm in no way claiming to be an expert or more knowledgeable than Ed, hell, I'm a newbie, but I'm gonna disagree with him about cure increasing potency.

During the dry and cure the plant is still alive, it's converting chlorophyll and sugars, which means it's also aging which should mean the trichs are still maturing. That would mean many of those clear thrichs should be getting cloudy, which is the THC increasing in potency. Same for milky to amber. This all would seem to be correct in the light of there being a point where curing ceases to improve and degradation starts, that's when the plant has finally stopped and "died".

Again, Ed is the authority and I'm a newbie, but that statement seems incorrect to me.
 
All that to say I agree with Tat, you can for sure smoke after just the dry. Different grows will have different amounts of harsh, but it will bridge the time gap :)
 
Sorry but I am still off topic. Tat you mentioned less nutes? When they are eating less should I not maintain the feeding schedule? And if not can you detail what I should be doing? This past week I have been adding less nutrients than water ( if add 4gal a day only needs nutes for 3gal to return to 950ppm). Even a link for reference would be awesome. House and Garden feeding schedule remains constant beyond week 7 although it is only an 8 week flower schedule.
 
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