Hi mate...got a couple of non-dimmable 1200 Vipars in a 120 x 240 tent and have grown through veg and flowering. First off, they do light bleach and burn for sure however this is what I`ve found....veg requires-for me-both veg and bloom lights on and I started at 32" and gradually went to around 26-27" as they grew-just vegging settings was like waiting for paint to dry, Flowering I went as low as 18" and serverely burnt the leaves when seeing how close was close-now I keep around the 25" mark. At that height I adjust either a little closer or just out based on light bleaching but I`m getting the hang of them now and reckon I can get them to 24".. There`s only a 10" gap between my 2 lights as well so it`s pretty bright in there. I found good depth of penetration/ bud growth to be around 18" below canopy but this is still something I`m working on figuring out so will alter and extend hopefully-also, strain type is a factor. Need good airflow for sure and defol-buds are still dense however you need to be on top of your girls to get good, dense buds with these. Smell, taste, colours are awesome mate, teeth rattling for sure...my weed is stronger after changing from hps` but heat was a problem for me there as I now find these LED`s run 6c cooler than the hps`. I don`t grow seedlings under them. I like these lights mate, there may be better out there but they are alright in my book. Hope that helps.