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True hermaphrodite? Question about sexing

Penny21

Penny21

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Hello everyone, first post here though not new to GWE.

I have an auto Jack from Paradise seeds that's really giving me a headache. Yesterday I discovered what seem to be pollen pods growing in the lower to mid area of the plant. I decided to cut them off, since they don't look like female calyxes at all. However, I saw one today with a pistil coming out of it. Was I wrong? Are they female calyxes after all? I attached some pictures where I circled the culprits in red. Any input welcome :)
 

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DW2 Hi penny welcome to the forum. Better ask dw2. He had one plant like that a couple months ago. What ever happened with that plant man?
 
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Howdy Penny21, and 9fingerleafs . That first photo looks like a male pollen sack with a pistil! The plant that Mr. 9 is referring to is (was, now) one that produced a nanner with a pistil popping out of it. I have had a few plants produce nanners at or near the end of the flowering cycle. The first time I saw them, I franticly plucked them as soon as I found them, but could not keep up. Those two plants produced about 150 seeds between the both of them. On this last grow (the one with the 'harry' nanner) I fixed the light leaks that I thought were causing the stress that caused the nanners, and I have (so far) only found a few (16) seeds. Penny21 , That might still be a female flower, wait a couple of days and see what it does, if it does not produce any white pistils, then you might want to remove it. From what I understand, when a nanner shows up, it has already released it's pollen, so it will not prevent any seeds by removing them. Do keep an eye out on that plant to see if any more male like sacks appear, I did have one plant that showed female traits until one day 'she' started growing 'grapes'!
Oh, and Mr. 9, that plant is now in jars curing and coming along nicely. Penny here's the photo if the nanner.
 

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That's great man I hope you enjoy it. It is to my understanding that those bananas have to open to release pollen becoming umbrellas. But if you find some on the surface there will be probably more on the inside of the buds out of sight and impossible to remove. I've had plants that get pollinated without any apparent male flower. I couldn't check every single calyx but I tried hard to find a banana and I couldn't. But just once
 
With the pollen sacs they need to open up because the pollen is on the stamen, which is inside. With the yellow bananas, you're actually looking at just stamen growths. It's like an inside out pollen sac. They're constantly releasing pollen from first appearance. However, bananas do a LOT less pollinating that a pollen sac that has time to fully develop and make tons of pollen before it opens :)

DW2 Please @mention me if you have more pictures of that odd flower! I'm very interested :) What was on the inside?

As far as odd female flowers, this is the weirdest I've seen. They eventually put out pistils but I was sweating a little at first!

http://www.growweedeasy.com/sites/growweedeasy.com/files/female-pre-flower-stipules-crossed.jpg

Turned out to be a perfectly normal (actually above average) female plant! Not a sign of a seed!
 
NebulaHaze, I do not know what, if anything, was on the inside. It was so close to harvest, I just left it there. The 'pistil' (if it was one) darkened like the others and it never opened up by harvest time. There was one other nanner that I saw earlier on and when I tried to pluck it off with the tweezers (I was looking thru a 10X loupe) as I grabbed it, a pistil like thing squirted out of the end. I (at that point) just thought that I had mangled an odd shaped calyx. The photos that I have posted are the only ones that I have of that anomaly, but if anything else 'pops up', I'll surly notify You.
 
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Thanks for the input everyone. As for now, there aren't any nanners that I can see, only pollen sacks. The canopy of the plant is producing nice flowers with lots of dual pistils, and I haven't seen any pollen sacks there. I did notice a tiny light leak on the bottom left corner of the door of my cabinet, it's quite small, the light you see in the picture is about a cm from top to bottom. Never thought that this small light leak could make such trouble. Going to fix this now.

I've got a good critical rapido from barney's farm growing alongside it. No herming on that one. Should I take Jack out and not risk pollination? Honestly, it would pain me to do that, since I only have 2 plants going. I will bow however to people with more experience than me.
 

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Penny21, the worst thing that will happen if You leave it is that You can get some seeds in Your buds. This will not decrease the potency of the bud but can reduce the size of the buds, but it might produce a super plant from the seeds. Fixing the light leak is a good thing, I had more nanners on my plants last July than this last grow and I believe that the reduction in nanners is due to the reduction of light leaks in my grow area.
If You decide to keep it, You can try removing the pollen sacks (very carefully!) to reduce the chance of pollination.
Good luck with Your grow.
 
Small update: I haven't seen any new pollen sacks since I've taken them off 2 days ago. I'm still watching her closely but it seems that she made up her mind of being a "her".
 
If a plant can give me this many headaches for having issues with hormones, Im not sure I should have children :/
 
Thanks for the info! I didn't really think about it until just now, but another weird thing is it only had one pistil! A normal female flower has two :)
 
NebulaHaze, I never thought about it either, only one hair? Maybe I live where there is a warp in the Cosmos space/time continuum? Or my 'weirdness' rubbed off onto my plants!!!(LOL)
 
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