Tincture with Trim

[JuanHondo]

I've got about 4 ounces of trim from my first grow and planning to make some tincture with it. I can't get the good ever clear here, but I did find 151 proof ever clear...they told me bacardi 151 was discontinued.
My plan is to decarb then freeze the decarbed trim and ever clear then mix the two together and shake...leave it in the freezer for a week and shake periodically...i was thinking 2g trim/1 oz booze...does that sound like a plan??

 

[kingfish]

Mild – 1g of weed to 30ml of alcohol (1oz of weed to ~850ml of alcohol)
Medium – 1g of weed to 20ml of alcohol (1oz of weed to ~570ml of alcohol)
Strong – 1g of weed to 10ml of alcohol (1oz of weed to ~280ml of alcohol)

 

[JuanHondo]

i'm assuming "weed" means flower...should trim be used at the same ratio or double/triple? may morning reading makes me think double or between your medium and strong recipe.

 

[JuanHondo]

actually that would be like your mild

 

[kingfish]

Go to the top of this page and click on "Growing Basics" and put Tincture in the serch webside . you will find everything you want to know about Tincture.

 

[JuanHondo]

thanks kingfish, i've read through most of those and others around the web...what i'm really looking for is some guidance on trim vs. flower ratio. from what I can gather trim should be substituted for flower at 2:1 or 3:1 ratios. anyone have experience making tincture from trim??

 

[JuanHondo]

ok this is what I'm working with...100g trim and 1/2gal 151 proof ever clear

 

[Cloud]

your gonna get 1/3 of the good stuff from trim than flower. Problem with making strong tincture from trim is you need a lot of alcohol to cover all the plant matter. Gonna make a weak tincture unless you evaporate away the alcohol to w/e strength tincture you want. Unless you can recover your alcohol your gonna lose a lot. I would make bubble hash or turn it into butter.

 

[JuanHondo]

i mixed 30g trim with 12 oz ever clear after freezing both overnight...I plan to leave it in the freezer for 5 days and shake periodically. that works out to 1g/12mL...so maybe equivalent to the GWE"Mild"...we'll see what happens.

 

[Farmall]

For me, dosing has been a big concern with tincture, edibles or anything eaten... had the “bad” experience once and never want to repeat it. The dosing calculators around the net will give you some clue but then it really helps to have some clue regarding the potency. I’d love to get a few lab tests just to see how close I come to reaching the plants genetic max. I did your process once that had a substantial green chlorophyll color and was pissed that it came out like that. So I strained and filtered it, put the really Christmas tree green 190 Everclear back in the freezer and forgot it for about 1 month... opened the freezer only to find that entire batch had lost the green, turned a beautiful gold and used it for another post processing job...but, that would have made a decent tincture in my opinion...in case you run into a situation like that...for what it’s worth

 

[quirk]

I looked at that trim under max magnification and didn't see many trichomes my friend, so yeah, it'll be pretty mild. You might just have to add some Hawaiian punch and get drunk.

 

[JuanHondo]

based on quirk's comment...and, in the name of science...I rolled up a big cone of the trim...didn't taste very good, but works just fine...reminded me of high school...so i'm hopeful the tincture will do something. i also weighed the cone first so I can back out what a reasonable dose should be...~2% of the tincture mass...i'll check the mass of a drop to figure out how many drops I should try...here's a photo of it today after 2 days in the freezer and a lot of shaking...

 

[JuanHondo]

today i filtered through cheesecloth and then through a coffee filter...very dark green color. my science tells me my dose should be 1/4tsp, but that seems like way too much and i'm scared to try it...

 

[alltatup]

JuanHondo I always use trim to make tincture nowadays. My last batch I left soaking for 3 months in the freezer, and it's powerful. I just cram as much trim into the jar and cover with EC, shake periodically.

I'd say best to use amber dropper bottles: one bottle = approx. 900 drops. You may want to start with a lower dose and work your way up. The few times I've taken too much tincture, it was very different from the right amount, which makes for a glorious high. Too much can disorient me and make my head feel very heavy. I usually have to take a nap if I take too much, and it leaves me with a bit of a hangover.

This is what they mean when they call Cannabis bi-phasic: more isn't better. Where more Tylenol make wipe out the pain better than less Tylenol, too much tincture is not better.

 

[JuanHondo]

can you recommend a dosage based on my recipe of 30g trim and 12 oz 151 EC? when I calculate based on the mass of one joint it's between 1/4-1/2tsp, but that seems like way too much...

 

[Farmall]

JuanHondo dosing tinctures and edibles is always a “try and see” kind of use. It took me a year to develop a plan to try a few drops and it is so varied for everyone. Vaping a bowl of cannabis works quickly and you put it down when your at the right spot. These other methods build more and more over 30-60 minutes after you stop ingesting. You will discover the batch you made might start at 3 drops but start with one...may need 10 but once your in the ball park you can go down or up. I get that same feeling alltatup describes and had it 9 times worse once. I’ll never revisit that again.
on the other hand, I made a 63mg per teaspoon batch of CBD oil using mct oil and one with olive oil. My sister says it had little effect as her commercial product is only 17mg but is better. That meant I had to try it and when I did, after 5 minutes a “ curtain of Cool” came over me and I knew it did something. Like one of those magicians curtains when they disappear..... The dosage calculators on line can get close but there is always a unknown variable without being able to lab test it like a Tylenol ...as ATU says.

any how, I’m sure you’ve read this but going ahead and trying it will be the best calculator you can find

 

[alltatup]

I can't because we don't know the % THC. Start with 10 drops. If nothing happens, next time take 15 or 20. You have to feel around to find your correct dosage, it's never the same for everyone. But they say start low and go slow. Like don't jump from 10 drops to 40 drops.

Tincture really only works for me early in the morning on an empty stomach. I usually take it around 4 in the morning, and I'm nice and relaxed when I go to work at 8. If I take it after I've eaten, I don't get high. I'm sure I'd have to take a helluva lot more on a full stomach, but I haven't played around with that. Once a day is good for me, and I vape in the afternoon.

 

[JuanHondo]

Farmall and alltatup thanks a lot for the feedback. i just tried 2 drops and i really don't expect anything to happen but we'll see...i definitely have that feeling i used to get when I first dropped acid and start second guessing my decision hahaha!! i put it all into brown dropper bottles too...should i keep those in the fridge/freezer or is any dark cupboard OK? thanks again!

 

[Farmall]

My biggest tincture problem using 190 Everclear is ...it burns my mouth. Keeping it cool is always a good idea and even in a freezer it won’t freeze. We keep homemade Limoncello in the freezer and when friends try it, it goes down so much nicer and then burns 😁

 

[alltatup]

I keep my tincture in the freezer; it will store there indefinitely. I wouldn't expect a lot to happen with 2 drops. A tincture dropper holds around 25-30 drops, so it's easy for you to measure out 10 or whatever.

Farmall I always dilute the tincture in some other liquid--almond milk, juice, whatever--to avoid the EC burn. I put the tincture in a 2 tbsp spoon, add almond milk and swig it down.