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This is what PH problems look like !

Dutchman1

Dutchman1

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So, I didnt realize some composted soil a friend made out of chicken manure,food scraps, leaves and some pine needles had lime in them also. When I heard oak leaves and pine needles I figured I better add a handful of lime. It didnt look like enough for 15 gallons of soil so I threw in a smaller second handful . The problems started the 5th of 6th week of growth (8 weeks old now). First 4 weeks or so plants were too small for runnoff ( autos planted in peat pots directly into 7 gallon pots) but on checking soil runnoff in week 5 I got a reading of 7.8. I flushed immediately with about 15 gallons of water (2, 7 gallon pots) and got PH down to about 7.4. I flushed the next two weeks in a row and still have only been able to get the PH down to 7.2. Not really much effect on the plants till this week. I think the two are finally fed up, ha.Its really slowed the growth. Anyway hoping I can get the PH down a little more when I flush this week and make it 4 more weeks to harvest. Hope this helps someone identify PH problems in the future. Classic symptoms. It also looks a little like light burn but its not. 2x Platinum 150 and a x 300 Watt LED light were 20 inches or more away the whole time. They were moved to 24 inches when I first noticed a problem. Light burn wouldnt be so concentrated in spots. It would be all over the leaves and mostly on the top nearest the lights.
 

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Hello Dutch1, I sure hate that, that's lock-out city right there, she can't get the goods, at least you got it going your way. Nice plant too ,I sure hope you get her straightened out.
 
Thanks DAAS, we will see what happens. nice thing about growing is there is always a next time. Ive never had a bad grow but if this it it, there will be another and this will just make me better.
 
I feel you Dutchman you have a hard call on the flushing but you have got it quick by being Proactive if you don't mind me asking what are you droping your in PH to and in what amounts are you pushing?
 
6.1-6.3 phed water every flush for 5 gallons or so per plant. Id flush more but have no drain in my cellar where the plants are so I have to carry all the waste water upstairs and it gets irritating after a couple of hours.
 
Your welcome, what your doing is gonna get em where they can eat them groceries again,it want take long, if I had to go upstairs like your doing, totten water , I'd have to hire me a couple of these kids in my neighborhood. That's 40 pounds a bucket.
It would be well worth it though ,when them buds get ripe.
 
May I suggest next water Ph down to 5.3 or even 5.0 and push the first 2.5gal or so till runoff happens, start checking ph and push a gallon or so more
depending on how fast it's climbing. You can also adjust your second half depending on your target PH.
I just had this problem the other Direction (4.0ph):( and I haul water in and out too
 
Somebody suggested Ph 5... Let me say nooooooooooo! 6. Best thing to flush with is bottled water. It's naturally Ph 5.8 but that's ok. If you ph your own water 6-
 
Sorry about that, Dutchman!! I've experienced a little nute lockout in hydro, but this gives me more insight into soil growing. Harvest might be a bit smaller, but I hope you still get great bud.
 
Morning Dutchman last time I flushed I flushed until my run off ph was where I wanted it I have found that if my soil ph is high that I will use something like flora clean first then flush, it doesn't take as much water to finish the flush..

I also fill 5 gallon buckets but I have a cellar door to toss it outside. two summers ago we had a brook dry up on us and we had to carry 30 gallons of water up a hill 6 tenths of a mile, we did this twice then I asked a buddy with a 4 wheeler to trailer it up the hill(much much easier lol)
 
Thanks OJH, I might just try that floraclean. Im getting desperate. One flush a week for three weeks and the PH is still high. About 30-40 gallons of water so far. I cant understand why it hasnt all been flushed out unless he used ag lime.
 
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