Starting Sea of Green in Coco

[changeofpace2014]

Nice start...

 

[Bootsy]

Switched the lighting to 12 12 on Monday so 4 days since. there are actually a few showing some pistils. I defoliated and have trained quite a bit, but not as religiously as other times (18 are a lot of work, even if tiny. the goal will be to fill both tents with colas - which isnt that far away. Like last time, I expect many times to be cutting very nice stalks to ensure there's enough room for the good ones and stopping them from spreading out. in general The girls in the big tent under the SF3000 seem to be doing better than the ones in the other tent under the Bloom Plus 2500. I am not sure how I will pick the tent they are in, but likely will put the shorter ones in the 2 by 4 and see what develops. So far liking the nutrients - which take the ph to 5.8, so no adjustment required so far at now 80% of recipe.

 

[SoOrbudgal]

LOL might have to shift them around abit more that tent is crowded. Got alot of plants there Bootsy but you can do it from what we've seen in the past.

 

[Ckbrew]

That is going to be one dense forest, grow on.

 

[Bootsy]

9 days with 12 12 lighting. I just did another major defoliation and limb removal yesterday along with a little more limb spacing. Must keep em within the 1 ft footprint to have colas with enough space to have nice tight buds. Most all have pistils now and a couple are even into budlets. They will be placed in their final spots in the tents in a week or so when i really know how much each are stretching - as i will try to group em together. Huge difference in phenotypes is very cool. only one true runt is a violator from a local facebook guy but still will be cool. Now that the girls are into flowering I am gradually turning up the lights to the intensity I want. eventually aiming for par of 750+, and at last few weeks of flowering even higher. Both lights are very intense and are not expected to get to 100%. Cheers till next time

 

[Bootsy]

Update at 15 days from 12 12. They are all bigger and more advanced. Every day i remove some hidden branches, more leaves and do some adjustments to space the hopeful colas. they will soon be perfect :wink:. I still havent decided on the final placement, but expect that it will be done to make em fit in the tent and to adjust light sensitivity. Good thing for the 4 by 4 tent as there is more space than first expected, even fitting my spare - which is now a pretty little runt Violator. Several are showing a little light stress and most have a bit a bit of what looks like cal-mag deficiency. I think the lighting is due to me increasing the levels and I will get that equalized soon. with so many strains, the canopy wont be even, since some like more intensity and will be closer. the cal-mag I am deciding what to do, since the nutrients say with them you don't need. because of this I didnt buffer the coir- duh!. For now I am still gonna trust that the nutrients will come through and eventually up the content overall to what's needed. I do runoff only every second day, watering every day from now on as a rule. I think they look lovely, but do now remember that these little plants (bigger this time) take almost as much work as full size except at harvest. Nice busy work for me though. beats working. Christmas will be around 9 weeks from 12 12 so there will be a great display for some envious visitors, I hope. Maybe even a bunch ready to go by then. Damn but they grow fast in coco! If I knew I had the 4 by 4 I would have done full size plants in the 2 by 4. The photos are 24 hours after some leaf removal. Be well folks.

 

[Bootsy]

20 days since 12 12. Yesterday was another day of training and removal to space the branches. Still quite a few leaves removed but less n less each day. I must be careful to not overdo it now that leaf production is stopping, and may have overdone it with one of them. But - only two little branches sacrificed out of the whole batch this time. I do like the quick responses with coco and the plants seem to go nuts every night. A few strains are showing enough nutrient burn that I will treat them a little different (dilute their water) when i can remember. Now I guess final adjustment and follow the nutrient recipe until it's time? Cant be that easy! I do think I got more stretch with the Mars Hydro Ts3000, but will see how they fill out in flowering. Photos from this morning in the two tents which are less crowded than expected due to new 4 by 4 instead of 3 by 3. 2 by 4 tent now has the taller plants under the BP2500 light. It is still unseasonably warm outside so basement is a little to humid around 60%. as soon as outdoors drops it should get back to seasonal where i have to think about humidifying. almost perfect timing to match up with the state of flowring where the buds are still just developing. Christmas Harvest to come.

 

[changeofpace2014]

Curious to your mars comment regarding stretching...I have two led fixtures both 300 w but one is diy the other is a recent mars ts 3000...There does There is some flexibility with dimming power and adj height...currently I have seedlings / early veg --5 finger just starting to grow out, and I dialed back the power to 67 % and 18 " have had them on 75% @26 ".. nodes appear to be close on blueberry and thai x Cotton candy kush..gollia flue lemon fire is hanging on for dear life "we shall see" it is the only one of 12 seeds that germinated...My ceiling is 38" and your comment raised a red flag for me...Nice Grow..Snow here today...

 

[Bootsy]

re the Mqars Hydro, my tents are both only 6 ft tall to fit in basement. My par meter indicates the MH T3000 produces levels too high at the floor level at 100%. I love it and that means i can leave it at top and use the intensity to figure out the magic level. I am doing the same thing in the other tent with the less intense BP2500 but the plant under it truly seem tighter node distances, enough to watch in future. both have given great product before. From what i know of science and the way light acts, I am a big believer in having the light a high as posible to get a longer sweet spot = most penetration, but that is not generally what I read. note i am still relatively new at 7 years and only a few with LEDs. Learning the hard way is my way (unless it's uber stupid). One thing these little grows have shown me is how differently some strains react to light intensity and nutrient levels.

 

[Bootsy]

A new wrinkle has been added. I am pretty sure I have hermies in 2 of the plants. Blackeberry Durban, which was same batch as one that hermied for a friend. i know they were abused for awhile, but no doubt somewhat genetics. And one of the 2 blackwaters as well, from old seeds of which one of 5 previously had hermied. They were both immediately taken out of the tents and into a closet while I decide whether to keep em going or turf. Still likely 4 to 6 weeks left to finish. I have lights and a heater only in the closet so no super control from now on if they survive. I see now that the my photos are pretty shitty, but it almost looks like each has seeds starting already only on lower buds. I will get some when the light come on today. I still kinda hoped this is just a different way of forming the calyxes - but pretty sure its bad. I hope no transfer of pollen happened! Otherwise it seems the rest are doing fine. a few show slight nitrogen toxicity so their water will be diluted a bit for awhile. I also started adding a quarter dose of cal-mag to each watering, and will see how it goes just in case. This is getting to be a lot less sea of green and now just a couple of crowded tents. with the bigger 4 by 4 and now 2 less (likely) to hermie, there's now room to spare. I will get overall photos later as well for records. Cheers.

 

[changeofpace2014]

No ones like to here that dirty word (Hermie) -- Worst case you could just roll one, and sit down and pluck that sucker...Looks like a hint of pink in the far right pic..nice

 

[Going2fast]

Ah Durban poison is awesome but has a track record for herming unfortunately.

 

[Blowdout2269]

If it makes you feel any better, it appears that my Big Bud in hydro is quite confused now as well. Bout to just scrap the whole thing. Sad day, lol.

Silver lining - I've been chomping at the bit to run a big batch of lovely autoflowers in my own soil.

 

[Bootsy]

surprisingly enough, it does make me feel better. the blackwater is definitely being chopped and if my cloe inspection og BD is as expected, they will both be gone. Misery likes company.

 

[Bootsy]

The blackwater is out in the snow. i did a dep insoection and found a big nanner underneath that had pread a lot of pollen. However, all I could find on the blackberry durban are what seem to be forming seeds. I realize it's taking a chance, but I have put her back in the tent t5hinkinh/hoping that she isnt the source of pollen and keep flowering. I tried again for a decent photo but attached is the best and i expect hard for folks to see and help. I will try again when lights come on and would appreciate if anyone can tell if thi is just seeed development from being pollinized.
A cool thing has happened in the Strawberry Cough developing very cool magenta pistils and buds. i do have it down to 67-68 at night, but this is the only one changing - and i dont see anything in it's descriptions about this. Look very neat. so far so good.

 

[Mr.furley]

Yep that second picture is a lot of seeds from pollination. Going2fast is correct about the Durban being hermi ( hence 1 of the problems with cookies) from the looks of it you've grown a sack right by the supercropping point, them genetics probably didn't like the high stress training.

 

[Bootsy]

Hi. One day over 5 weeks since 12 12, and all seems to be going fine. Not much work now except trim a leaf or two each day, water following the recipe and oogle them fairly often. Pretty decent spacing of the forming colas and i am very hopeful of a good harvest. If 3 more weeks, there should be some niiiice buds. I have stayed at 60 % nutrient concentration with added cal-mag at a 25% dosage (stopping that after this watering. Lots of brown tips on the leaves, but I think that happened before when i was at full strength. there are a few which still look like N2 overdose, but not too bad. I intend to try to flush for a few days at least, so will be trying to keep track somehow as there are huge differences in the expected flowering times. Should be fun. photos are of both tents with the profile of the 4 by 4. and one of the Strawberry cough colourful bud. Blackberry Durban does have quite a few seeds, but not obscene and i have been inspecting her daily for any hermie - she must have been a recipient from the hermie blackwater. Cheers till next time.

 

[Bootsy]

I was just sitting by the girls appraising relative growth (wake n bake time) and realized i have a little more coordination to attempt if I want to further fine tune. I believe there will be at least 2 weeks difference between the fatest ripe strain to slowest. the recipe for the floraflex nutrients is specific for each week after week 4, but I am so far feeding all the plants the same. I think I will separate them and maybe do two sets of feeding levels assuming 8 (what is on the recipe) and 10 weeks. This will mean continuing on the 4/5 week mix for extra 2 weeks for the slower batch. Another bowl for inspiration and i will figure out what I wanna do, knowing that regardless, there will be nice product. I likely will do the 2 group selections based on current grow progress and the breeder's suggested times. It was getting boring anyway just watering and picture taking the whole bunch. More later on the two lists for those who might be interested. I often wonder if it is ok to do so much writing - someone do tell me if I am getting excessive.

 

[SoOrbudgal]

LOL i often ramble when stoned I just don't read long i mean really long boring stoner posts my brain won't follow the speech. LOL

 

[Bootsy]

i get ya. often even have to watch a half hour tv show twice. good thing is i can enjoy both times