SOIL Sick plants

[Mollisol]

Hey all,

I hope you guys can see what I'm missing here. Transplanted from solo cups to 3 gallon fabric pots about 2 weeks ago.

-soil fox farm ocean forest
-20/4 lights schedule
-temp 75 degrees Fahrenheit
-lights turned down to 80%
-FF nutrient schedule 1/2 strength
-water every 2 or 3 days 27 oz. (3 solo cups)
-water Ph adjusted to 6.5
-veging under four SF1000 @ 80%

I've gone through the GWE plant doctor pages. But I'm
still not sure. Could it be Beet Curly Top Virus? They are growing just slowly and sickly.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

 

[Rootsruler]

They look underwatered and overlit. What PPFD are they receiving at this point? Water ENTIRE media not just around the root ball.

 

[Bluey]

29% RH is a big problem and your plants will get very sick and not grow well at all...they can die easily at too low humidity.. Never below 40% unless pushing massive buds through that last extra bit of time, and at that stage of growth 65% for your plants.

 

[Mollisol]

Oh hell! I didn't even think about the RH! I hung some wet towels in the tent. Raised the RH to 36%. I may have to break down and by a tent humidifier. Any recommendations as far a humidifier?

 

[bdeegan]

I use a small cool mist vaporizer from walmart when needed (in tent). Typically I try to make my environment outside the tent (“the lung”) better so I can have more control inside the tent

 

[Rootsruler]

Yes. If you have the luxury of a controllable lung room it'll make controlling the environment much easier.

 

[Rootsruler]

I have an AC Infinity T3 and I love it. Set it to the setpoint I want and let it do its thing. No need to have to manually turn on and off when my setpoint hits. I have 2 extra humidifiers. One is another T3 and one is a Vicks manual that works well also.

 

[Mollisol]

Unfortunately, I don't have much control. Tent is in the basement. It's very dry here. I ordered a humidifier.

i hope they recover. I don't want to lose the genetics.

 

[Bluey]

Lower your temps until you can get humidity up to where it needs to be.

As the plants get larger and you water more the humidity will slowly climb anyway.

 

[Mollisol]

I know this is a really tough question. If I get the humidity in the correct range, do you think they will recover?
What's your best quess?

It's been my experience, they can usually take a hell of a beating in veg. Humidifier will be here tomorrow. I put a 5 gallon bucket of water, and hung some wet dish towels up in the tent. Also set my exaust fan at 50%

That bumped me up to 34% RH.

 

[Rootsruler]

They'll be fine until your humi arrives.

 

[Bluey]

Yes. Will fully recover

 

[Bluey]

Just remember it is both the humidity and temp and the combination of that with leaf temp (VPD). They are all important. You are better to keep temps lower than higher unless running CO²

 

[Rootsruler]

Just remember it is both the humidity and temp and the combination of that with leaf temp (VPD). They are all important. You are better to keep temps lower than higher unless running CO²

Correct!! Anytime plants get out of whack light intensity should be pulled back and temps should be lowered some. Intense light and heat will speed up metabolism and if the plant is sick it'll just make it sicker trying to push those processes.

 

[johnb1963]

I agree way underlwatered and over kill on the light's. With your tent size you only need one of those lights. What made you think you needed 4 of those lights?

 

[Mollisol]

Oh yeah man. Total over kill for just two plants. I have four more to put into the tent as soon as they germinate. ( if they germinate) It's day four and nothing. I know it can take 10 days for germination. But I usually see them pop by day three.

I only havre the one tent for veg and flower. I have another SF1000 outside tent I use for veg when the plants are small. But, because its outside the tent i cant control temp or humidity. I'm stuck with the ambient temperatures of the basement.

This whole grow is just starting off really shitty. Two sick clones and 4 seeds that are slow to germinate or won't at all.

Thanks to everyone for your comments and suggestions. I really do appreciate it!

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[Bluey]

Don't panic.

Stay the course.

I have found that the ones that don't germinate do eventually pop, when using the paper towel method. Last grow they were still popping at week 3 and week 4 but I threw them out then. They would have been fine but I already had the earlier popped ones under lights and my room was full.

I couldn't get one in 10 to pop in those Jiffy plugs, I think they are peat pellets from memory, even after 6 or 7 weeks. Not 1 popped and I did it properly. Live and learn.

 

[johnb1963]

Even if you had 10 plants in your tent, you don't 4 of those lights. 1 of those lights will cover a 4×4 tent. It's like trying to grow a plant in the 120 degree desert. Too intense light. Cut back to one light ans see what happens.

 

[Mollisol]

I think 400 total watts is about right for this size tent.

 

[Mollisol]

Thanks for the encouragement Bluey. I am getting impatient and a little frustrated. I guess I need to take a step back and chill out,

I use to use the paper towel method then I switched to direct to soil. Maybe I should switch back. I had good results with the paper towel.