ScrOG tutorial with pics

[SoOrbudgal]

Okie dokie i'll be watching ohhh it's almost 730pm time for the doobie and a show catch ya later

 

[bboyfromwayback]

The girls are going into the flower tent today. Did a light defoliation but not much since I’ve been removing some leaves as they grew to keep the center open. Heavy defoliation in a few weeks. Until then it’s pretty much cruise control. At this point I let all the small stuff in the center start growing up while keeping the mains growing out towards the edges but still under the screen.

Experience helps by knowing how big of a screen to use. Depending on the veg time, pot size and plant. Ideally you want your screen full within 2wks of flipping to 12/12. After that the stems start to get too hard and force themselves towards the light. I expect both of these plants to slightly outgrow these screens which is what I wanted to completely fill my tent. I’ll post some more pics in a few days.

 

[grouchyoldman]

I sound like a bboyfromwayback fanboy, but those scrog pics are as close to perfection as I've ever seen!

Perfect training above and below the screen. All the plants look great, but the scrogs are going to be monsters.

 

[bboyfromwayback]

Thanks buddy! I should’ve taken some cuttings from that Cali Dream before flipping, great genes in that plant. Be cool to see what she could do given the entire tent. That may be a grow down the line 🤔

 

[bboyfromwayback]

I thought I’d use this pic to show a little better use of the technique. The size of the plant/screen will determine how much grow should be focused on the center. For this small screen I meant to leave two but a third ended up remaining snd it’s against a ziptie in a way that I’m afraid it will snap if I tried to pull it back out so it’s staying. The yellow shows a empty spot that’s remaining. There will be a few other empty holes once the colas in them now get bigger and go towards the outer edge, that’s why you want to leave some behind to grow in the center and fill those spaces. The red arrows shows which way those colas are going and the orange arrows show where I’ll put the side shoots that are growing off those colas. Now this could all change by this evening but that was the plan as of yesterday evening. With the Cali Dream I left 6 colas behind and grew them in a circle around the center but that’s under a 24”x24” screen.

Main thing for now as it stretches is to fill the screen. Let the small stuff grow up to become big stuff while keeping the big stuff growing out and under to fill the screen. Easiest way I know to explain it. Week 3 when it’s time to defoliate again I’ll thin the plant out by removing any small/skinny stems and any lower growth that didn’t keep up with the rest of the plant. Until then, every evening I’ll check the plants out and any big leaves that are coving other colas or bud sites I gently tuck down under the screen but I don’t remove anything else until week 3

 

[bboyfromwayback]

Week 3 defoliation and feeding took place last night on the big girls, looks like they bounced back nicely.

Ok, now to the little ones this thread is about. Before and after pictures of what I do every evening as soon as the lights some on. I pull each stem down under the screen and stretch it all out in the direction I want it ti keep growing in. All articles I’ve read say to let the growth get about 4” above the screen then to pull it down and move it into the next space over. That method works but the reason I do it this way is to get all the small stuff coming up as much light as possible. If everything goes as planned, by the time the screen is full, the small colas coming up in the center should be close to the same height as the mains that reach the edge for a level canopy.

The plant on the right is super full, doubt it’ll go another 2wks before I start removing some leaves from her

 

[bboyfromwayback]

Added this picture to show what I’m talking about by letting the little stuff get light. I circled all the colas growing up off the three mains in the pic. If this plant was growing vertically, the top portion of those buds would be nice and full then the lower you go down the stem they get fluffier and less mature. F that! All those buds will get as much lights as the tops this way. Hardly any fluff. Keep everything growing under snd out to get all your bud sites exposed. That’s why you can grow tiny plants and still get 3-4oz per plant of solid nugs this way. To be continued

 

[Canuck147]

Nice full tent - but it still looks like your plants have elbow room.

 

[bboyfromwayback]

I guess I could stack them on top of each other

 

[bboyfromwayback]

I don’t think I gave these plants enough time to get used to the new pots before going to 12/12. They stunted a little for a few days and it took almost a week to see any signs of flower after the switch. They just finished week 1 of flower and growing like weeds now. I’ll give them a few more days to fill the screens then I’m thinning them out a little. As you can see, there’s a lot of bud sites inside those 14”x15” spaces

 

[bboyfromwayback]

There aren’t many comments on this thread but it is being viewed so after finding some old pics of a actual scrog’d plant I thought we’re deleted I’m doing some editing. The Cali Dream on post number 1 was NOT scrog’d. I believe I stated this before but wanted to clarify. I only used the pictures to show a big full screen but it’s no more of a scrog than the pics I keep seeing on GWE of someone placing a net in their tent, allowing the plants to grow through it and posting a pic of their scrog. Scrig? You just let your plant grow through a net, zero technique. Not a ScrOG. Therefore I deleted the Cali Dream pics and replaced with the Chocolope for accuracy.

This post is reminding me why I hated writing papers in college. My mind is all over the damn place when I try to put something like this in order but I promise I’ll eventually pull it all together and make sense out if it. For everyone who’s following, hopefully you get results. Not a pretty plant, but results! Once this is over I may clean it up and redo it in a better order once I can see it as a whole and make sense of it. If so that will be a new post, not a newer edited version of this one.

 

[Canuck147]

I understand where you're coming from - I feel the same about my autoflower training thread - like no one's paying attention. So I decided to continue with my thread just for myself and me and I - so the 3 of us can understand what we have done and what we could have changed - easier to see with some sort of journal.
Keep at it.

 

[bboyfromwayback]

Thanks man! I’m still following your auto grow 😉 Tbh I felt the same way so I checked the views, people are looking they just aren’t posting if that makes you feel better, I’m sure same deal on your thread. I didn’t want to stop the journal for the people following along but I can’t add any more pics, I can post words but not pics. Not sure if it’s a issue with the forum or what. The ‘show your grow’ thread is 200+ pages so I doubt there’s limits on pics you can post 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

[newbutoldgrower75]

I'm learning a lot from both of the threads guys. Some of us newer growers can feel a little intimidated when posting on well respected growers posts that have way more knowledge than us, so don't let that discourage you from doing it. Keep up the great work guys.

 

[bboyfromwayback]

Thanks newbutoldgrower75, hopefully it’s useful. I got tired of buying dirt weed a long time ago and started growing but not consistently, just enough to keep a supply. Thanks to covid, working from home and stumbling upon GWE my grows have got considerably better the last year. You have the space, grow a lot of plants and that learning curve gets really short 😉

Ok, so I can make new post I just can’t add any more to the original. GWE must limit your edits lol so I’ll keep this one going

My son had a baseball game so I didn’t have much time in the tents this evening. I did snap a few pics to point some things out. Notice all the little stuff in the center that’s not so little anymore and starting to grow up. At this point the screens are mostly full other than chasing the corners. Tomorrow I’m going to thin them out and let the outer colas grow up. If they get big enough to move to another opening in the next couple days I will but at this point it’s about keeping a level canopy and there’s nowhere to move the stuff in the center.

 

[grouchyoldman]

Hey BBoy & Canuck, I've been following closely and taking notes along the way. I'm sure many others have as well.

Consider this, your experience and knowledge are being laid down for the purpose of sharing what you know and you've both done an exemplary job with difficult topics!

I think the missing element for work like yours is that once it is complete and the initial posting phase is history it becomes lost amid the flow of new posts. I have used the GWE search tools for the Forum and unearthed many forgotten treasures from the past, but the next new user who wants info on Training an Autoflower is unlikely to look beyond last week's posts.

A great addition would be some sort of "Greatest Hits" sticky post that additions like yours would end up in.

Good work Guys!

-Grouchy

 

[Farmbuck]

Thanks for sharing @bboyfromwayback I might want to go back to SCROG again !!

 

[bboyfromwayback]

I like for the simplicity really. That and results. Other methods I worry if I took to much off the plants or did I leave too much on it. Those concerns are eliminated. Yield isn’t a issue but bang for my buck is. Figure if I’m going to pay $35-40 a month to run my tent, I want all the oz’s out of that I can get. Even if they’re stored for a while we’ll eventually smoke it

 

[bboyfromwayback]

Very true Grouchy! On a busy GWE day, that post may get buried a couple pages back quick. Funny you said this because I actually was scrolling through a few weekends ago and found a post from way back I’m going to build on. Dude had a good idea for training, I believe I’ve improved it😁 my next grow just got potted up from cups, another round of four. I may try something epic after that because BU2B proved, pics of massive indoor plants are just cool

 

[bboyfromwayback]

The girls got haircuts today and right now they aren’t very happy. Afterwards I took them out for a nice dinner so their spirits should perk up soon. Since I read Nebula’s article on defoliation I’ve stuck to that schedule but we’re deviating here. These girls just got way too thick. I’ve grown a lot of GG and they’ve always been decent sized plants with nodes spaced 2-3” apart but this one is compact with tight nodes. Would’ve made a great manifold. First time I’ve grown White Widow and it’s tight and compact as well. Should have two full screens of fat buds in a few wks.

Full tent pic on 100%. We got Barney’s (left) vs ILGM (right) Love these Electric Sky’s. Turned down they’re mostly white and easy on the eyes. Crank the juice up and the red spectrum really comes out.