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Scarlet Grapes STANDALONE...journal?
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SoOrbudgal
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I agree with Going2fast with that many bud sites on each and the crowded space you grew them too well LOL consider thinning. How ya do it is up to you.
Blowdout2269
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Ok, feel like it's been a minute. How we doin group?
I'm still off work going back in a week or so. I've been busy with the house, physical therapy, family, harvest
...and the Scarlet Grapes!
These buggers have had me stumped. I've actually struggled quite a bit with this grow. But I think I've finally correct my problems. 🤞
TL;DR @ the bottom.
So, first it was the under watering. I thought it had been corrected.(WRONG, keep reading). But I left it alone.
Then I thought overwatering or wind burn. Ruled that out quick.
Note: at this point have only been giving my plants dechlorinated water with use of Vitamin C to adjust the pH. The input ranges from 6.2-7.2
Could it be a nutrient deficiency or toxicity? Maybe the bloom tea I gave them at first signs of flower was to strong? Idk. Continuing to ride it out.
Bugs maybe? I've done vigorous searches over several days. Just some fungus gnats, which are mitigated. Nothing else. Though I did find this one strange bug(this will be brought up shortly). I've ruled out pests as well. 🤔 Carried on with LITFA.
Probably root zone stuff then, right? Well I know from the past that my cooked soil build is a tad hot. They'll just have to grow into it. It's worked in the past. I'm not washing my soil out. Carried on with "watering".
Finally, a few days ago I decided to do some light haircuts. Especially on the ever bushy 4 and 7. I was so tempted to take yellowing leaves on others, but just took it easy and practiced some serious self control. I've made this mistake before. Took mostly leaves that couldn't be tucked anymore, or were dragging in soil, aswell as a few large fans. It's been over three weeks since I saw signs of flower on most, but I'm unsure about what phase of stretching each plant is in. Number 8 on the other hand got a full blown defo/lolly and loved it! But this isn't my problem either.
Now, obviously I've taken this grow on a little differently then some. Little defoliation, tucking, and such.
But I've also taken LST to the extreme with some. Which has likely resulted in some stress. (The way it has possibly "stunted" a few of these gals is amazing to look at! It's like the buds are in a fat pile up down low, lol. Pics following)
I'm also ashamed to admit that I've also been quite careless with my handling of these plants(water on leaves, rubbing against pistols, tearing leaves, ect.).
Ok, so at this point I'm pulling my hair out, but still refusing to try a bunch of everything and just LITFA.
Then the other day after a visit to my grow and standing to ponder again...a lightbulb goes on in my head.
Look at the pics. Most of the unwanted yellow is occurring on the four plants under the new light! So, I raised the SF4000 a few inches and reduced to 80%. If it is light related, its unlikely they will recover much.
At this same moment I decided to lift a few pots...huh.
Way light way earlier than expected. So I gave 2, 4 and 7 A LOT of water, and I absolutely drown # 8. They loved it!
They next day I did the same to the remaining four. All pots have been raised to heavy AF! I also took this opportunity to collect and test a small amountof run-off from two diffferent specimens. 6.5 and 6.5, same as every other tim I've checked runoff of this soil. No matter what the input.
Results are immediately observed the very next day. We'll have to see about the still grumpy discolored 2, 3, and 6. But, the ladies are praying to the sky! If this is the fix...I feel very embarrassed, lol. Still starting to get some burnt tips, but meh. Oh yeah, plants # 1, 2, 4, 5, and 7 appear to be doing the Scarlet thing.
There it is!
My tough journey over the past ten days or so.
We'll see if I've dodged a bullet. Hoping for the best but expecting the worst. Pictures take forever to load, so I'll be throwing in as many as I can here and in future posts. I will also be attempting to add descriptions when I can(we all know how the interface can be, lol). We're also gonna play a round of Name that Bug in honor of Going2fast
Thank you for reading and participating with my grow!
✌🙂ðŸ‘
TL;DR - The struggle is real. Though grow, but I've had worse. Think I got it worked out. Pictures to share.
All of the pictures in this post are new as of today.
SG family shot.
# 5 on the left. Likely stunted, but chunky as a mofo. This is already about the size of a pop can. The buds are kinda in a pile-up around the main stalk. And yes, she's already going dark purple! # 1 in the background.
Grumpy # 2 back there, but now she ain't so droopy anymore. She's reaching for the light!
The monstrous # 8(the only one I topped) on the right blocking # 4 in the back, also reaching for the light.
# 1 back there
Chunky # 5
The still sad girls 2 and 6
A much happier than before # 7 with # 8 in the background.
I'm still off work going back in a week or so. I've been busy with the house, physical therapy, family, harvest
...and the Scarlet Grapes!
These buggers have had me stumped. I've actually struggled quite a bit with this grow. But I think I've finally correct my problems. 🤞
TL;DR @ the bottom.
So, first it was the under watering. I thought it had been corrected.(WRONG, keep reading). But I left it alone.
Then I thought overwatering or wind burn. Ruled that out quick.
Note: at this point have only been giving my plants dechlorinated water with use of Vitamin C to adjust the pH. The input ranges from 6.2-7.2
Could it be a nutrient deficiency or toxicity? Maybe the bloom tea I gave them at first signs of flower was to strong? Idk. Continuing to ride it out.
Bugs maybe? I've done vigorous searches over several days. Just some fungus gnats, which are mitigated. Nothing else. Though I did find this one strange bug(this will be brought up shortly). I've ruled out pests as well. 🤔 Carried on with LITFA.
Probably root zone stuff then, right? Well I know from the past that my cooked soil build is a tad hot. They'll just have to grow into it. It's worked in the past. I'm not washing my soil out. Carried on with "watering".
Finally, a few days ago I decided to do some light haircuts. Especially on the ever bushy 4 and 7. I was so tempted to take yellowing leaves on others, but just took it easy and practiced some serious self control. I've made this mistake before. Took mostly leaves that couldn't be tucked anymore, or were dragging in soil, aswell as a few large fans. It's been over three weeks since I saw signs of flower on most, but I'm unsure about what phase of stretching each plant is in. Number 8 on the other hand got a full blown defo/lolly and loved it! But this isn't my problem either.
Now, obviously I've taken this grow on a little differently then some. Little defoliation, tucking, and such.
But I've also taken LST to the extreme with some. Which has likely resulted in some stress. (The way it has possibly "stunted" a few of these gals is amazing to look at! It's like the buds are in a fat pile up down low, lol. Pics following)
I'm also ashamed to admit that I've also been quite careless with my handling of these plants(water on leaves, rubbing against pistols, tearing leaves, ect.).
Ok, so at this point I'm pulling my hair out, but still refusing to try a bunch of everything and just LITFA.
Then the other day after a visit to my grow and standing to ponder again...a lightbulb goes on in my head.
Look at the pics. Most of the unwanted yellow is occurring on the four plants under the new light! So, I raised the SF4000 a few inches and reduced to 80%. If it is light related, its unlikely they will recover much.
At this same moment I decided to lift a few pots...huh.
Way light way earlier than expected. So I gave 2, 4 and 7 A LOT of water, and I absolutely drown # 8. They loved it!
They next day I did the same to the remaining four. All pots have been raised to heavy AF! I also took this opportunity to collect and test a small amountof run-off from two diffferent specimens. 6.5 and 6.5, same as every other tim I've checked runoff of this soil. No matter what the input.
Results are immediately observed the very next day. We'll have to see about the still grumpy discolored 2, 3, and 6. But, the ladies are praying to the sky! If this is the fix...I feel very embarrassed, lol. Still starting to get some burnt tips, but meh. Oh yeah, plants # 1, 2, 4, 5, and 7 appear to be doing the Scarlet thing.
There it is!
My tough journey over the past ten days or so.
We'll see if I've dodged a bullet. Hoping for the best but expecting the worst. Pictures take forever to load, so I'll be throwing in as many as I can here and in future posts. I will also be attempting to add descriptions when I can(we all know how the interface can be, lol). We're also gonna play a round of Name that Bug in honor of Going2fast
Thank you for reading and participating with my grow!
✌🙂ðŸ‘
TL;DR - The struggle is real. Though grow, but I've had worse. Think I got it worked out. Pictures to share.
All of the pictures in this post are new as of today.
SG family shot.
# 5 on the left. Likely stunted, but chunky as a mofo. This is already about the size of a pop can. The buds are kinda in a pile-up around the main stalk. And yes, she's already going dark purple! # 1 in the background.
Grumpy # 2 back there, but now she ain't so droopy anymore. She's reaching for the light!
The monstrous # 8(the only one I topped) on the right blocking # 4 in the back, also reaching for the light.
# 1 back there
Chunky # 5
The still sad girls 2 and 6
A much happier than before # 7 with # 8 in the background.
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Blowdout2269
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Oh yeah, almost forgot...young frost! I ran back down and took these just for u Going2fast ðŸ‘
Omg, pics take forever to load here...
Omg, pics take forever to load here...
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Blowdout2269
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I've come to the conclusion that I'm really not an auto guy. It's just too much of a whirlwind for me to enjoy. I enjoy the flowers, and in my mind auto's have some of the most beautiful flowers I have ever seen. But, I'm old and kind of set in my ways. I really like the time and potential that photo plants give me. Folks like you, Going2fast Bowhunterwoody and others blow me away with how rapidly you hop on problems and fix what you can. Auto's a whole different ball game for me when it comes to nutritional needs and training and I really don't think I know the rules of the game well enough to play.
Blowdout2269
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There's always room to learn!
Or is it one of those "can't teach an old dog new tricks" kinda thing? Lol 🤣
Thanks for the love brother! ðŸ‘
Or is it one of those "can't teach an old dog new tricks" kinda thing? Lol 🤣
Thanks for the love brother! ðŸ‘
Blowdout2269
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Well surprisingly enough, this thing got itself unstuck from the trap multiple times. I put him there to observe. But I actually had to push him down hard for him to stay.
My concern is that it is a predator. If so, what is the prey he's feasting on?
My concern is that it is a predator. If so, what is the prey he's feasting on?
Bluey
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Nice work...yes those Spider Farmer quantum boards are surprisingly powerful..I'm at up to 37" above with 2 sf7000 4th week of flower raised from 34" 4 days ago. They will toast em in no time if you follow the recommendations of the manufacturer....they are so off the mark.
Those buds look good. I think you will be fine.
Those buds look good. I think you will be fine.
Blowdout2269
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?
First I thought Shield bug...
Now I'm thinking Elm Seed beetle. But that's not right.
There is also a type of bug that resembles this one that is a species invasive to North America from the Mediterranean.
First I thought Shield bug...
Now I'm thinking Elm Seed beetle. But that's not right.
There is also a type of bug that resembles this one that is a species invasive to North America from the Mediterranean.
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Blowdout2269
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I'll probably continue to run them on occasion.
Though I do miss photoperiod plants for their ability to control certain aspects of the grow better.
Though I do miss photoperiod plants for their ability to control certain aspects of the grow better.
Going2fast
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Oh yeah I see some scarlet. Man this cross does seem to get sensitive to high powered LED's once flower hits which is very interesting. But 2 and six look to be starving. Could be that whole being thirsty thing too.🤣 Man I hate fabric pots for that reason. You sure did some serious lst on those gals. All them budsites are hungry. Nice work brototype. If they all went perfect it would get boring.
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Going2fast
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Braappy mcbraapface. No wait ....last pic I had thad same look after wrecking my MTN bike and broke my clavicle. That's an Endo bug.
Blowdout2269
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37" Holy jeebus! Good to know about the SF's.
Maybe I should easy up a little more. 🤔
Maybe I should easy up a little more. 🤔
Blowdout2269
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Going2fast, lol, you funny. Bet that hurt!
Please elaborate about the pest?
Please elaborate about the pest?