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Safer RSO?

Where I am its a few blocks away. The state outlawed 190 proof, so EverClear made 189. State gave up.
 
My understanding was that exposing the mixture to 100C while boiling off the alcohol would take care of decarboxylation. Is the issue here that you are just letting the alcohol evaporate at room temperature, and then need to heat the remaining tar to decarboxylate?

There are two basic ways of making decarbed oil.
Decarb leaf, trim or flower prior to extraction. What you extract is ready to consume.
Or decarb the resulting oil or oil/alcohol mixture after extraction. Extraction is NOT ready to consume, until you heat it to decarb.
For decarb temps and time, I go by a report I read by Dutch and Russian pharma folks. They concluded "110 for 110" is best. Meaning 110 C for 110 minutes. That's about 230 F for an hour and 50 minutes.
I have good luck with that time/temp schedule when making Golden Dragon out of decarbed flower.

I decarbed some oil as per an article I read and it worked well. Just weak leaf and trim.
I let the alcohol air evaporate, then cooked the oil in a little Teflon pan.
 
On the surface, their prices look great, but do not include Fed. Excise Tax or shipping. By the time that's added, a gallon of 190 proof will run me about $170 ($80 for the alcohol, $25 tax, $65 shipping). I saw another brand on Amazon @ $135/gal including tax and shipping, so I may go with that.

I'm planning on cobbling together a small still, so that I can recover the alcohol using a condenser when I cook my oil down. Price won't be such an issue, since in theory, I'll be able to use the same alcohol over and over again. Given the still, it's also possible to buy 151 proof which is available across the street, and distill it up to a higher proof. Again, in theory, that only needs to be done the first time. After that the re-condensed alcohol should remain quite pure.
 
jalapeno I found out that it would have cost me $240 for a gallon of grape alcohol!!! Forget it!!! Yes, I saw that organic stuff on Amazon, too. I ended up buying Everclear 190 yesterday.

As soon as my decarb machine arrives, I'm going to make some cool tincture. I may end up storing some of it in the freezer for months, but I will start testing it at 10 days.
 
If u r goina build a still just make ur own alcohol. Don't know if I really want the mess in the bottom of my still. Have talked to guys that make large quantities in conventional stills. The super sciency way is with a fractional still. I've got my fall run of liquor mashing in . I'm at least goina make cold tincture with it .
 
@ redbeard: The still I have in mind would not be adequate for concentrating the alcohol, as is done when making home brew liquor. Given starting with 190 proof alchohol as a solvent, and very dry bud and trim, the still and process don't have to deal with the otherwise critical issue of driving out significant more alcohol than water. With very dry bud and trim, and keeping the temperature below 100C, by using a double boiler as a heat source, I expect that the escaping vapor will be pretty nearly as concentrated as the solvent which I started with. Rather than allow that vapor to boil off into the air, as described in many RSO recipes, I will use a lab style glass 'boiling flask', with a plug with a copper tube inserted through it. All the alcohol vapor will go into tube, which will be formed into a downward sloping spiral as it passes through a bucket of ice. The condensed output will run out the end (the downstream end of the coil will exit through a hole in the side of the bucket) into an empty glass bottle so I can use it again for the next batch. I had thought that I could also use this set up to first increase the proof of the 151 proof Everclear available locally, but once I did some research, I realized that this would require a more sophisticated apparatus, and more care, and experience to be successful. I've instead ordered 1 gal 190 proof organic grain alcohol from Amazon. Cost $135, but I hope to never need to replace it.
 
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An article 'How to Make Medical Cannabis Oil' on this site indicated that the heating process using a double boiler will provide enough heat to take care of decarboxylation. However, I can't find anywhere else that indicates that the maximum temperature of 100C which can be achieved that way is sufficient. Every other recipe I've found recommends about 115.6C (240F) 'bake' first. I'm going to go that route, but doing it to the end product makes sense as well, and I can certainly see where it could be more convenient (less material to deal with).
 
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