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Purple Envy, Chemdog Millionaire & Bud Bud Bling Tingz!

PaganRich, Seeing DCrosby, is gonna be nice, he's rather laid back, I'd like to be there.
But I really like NeilYoung, the best of the 4.
Especially his Pyscodelic Pill album,
You ever heard that song with NeilYoung an CrazyHorse, called Walk Like a Giant, if not when you get a chance listen to it.
 
D.A.A.S.69 Starting to try NY but not quite there yet. At the moment it`s Taste in Men by Placebo and Night Goat live by the Melvins that has me hooked. Is Cajun your neck of the woods? I only know Cajun from back in the 80`s when it was popular here cos of Lenny Kravitz or someone like him for about 6 months then disappeared from the music scene :)
 
Chemdog is going really well however I need to keep her growing sideways for a bit to give me width, spacing and roughly equal height. I`m training her to grow wide so that I can rig up this slightly wider frame to allow more airflow and growth space. I find it helps keep me structured in my grows by structuring the girls, if that makes sense. Only 3-4" off soil still. Another 3 weeks roughly before flipping I reckon. No rush, mellow grow.
Pics show her being structured with the hoop added to show where I`m going with this idea....:)
 

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Yeah, 8 poss 9 but usually 8....dependent on strain 5-8 really nice stems is my aim to finish with, usually, at harvest. Working on placement spacing to get more structured air movement through to build bigger stems hence bigger colas. Don`t know if this will amount to anything but I`ve been working on this type of grow style for a bit now but need to improve upon it.:)
 
Pagan, if you bend the stem and give it a little twist when it reaches the edge of the pot. Continue tying it down, It will morph into a grotesque monster. It will swell to 3 times the size, and that will hold quit a few colas.
 
kingfish Is that where you run the stem round the pot lid and use the node growths from the leaves trailing to grow more colas. I`d forgotten about that. Is that what you`re on about? Can it be done any other way than without topping that central stem growth. Am I on the mark or off away with the fairies on this. Really interested. Great shout mate:)
 
Pagan, I have been using this method since forever. I've tried topping once and found that it slowed the whole thing down for more then a week. Not only do I tie the main stem down, but also the nodes as they get bigger then the rest of the plant. The main thing is to not let the main top be the tallest.
 
PaganRich, kingfish, is right about bending them over an twisting the stem a bit, to get them to grow in a circle, all the bottom branches, grow straight up to the sun, and you got more colas than ever,
That's what I did to the first auto I ever grew, an got just a few grams short of 7ozs. Dry.
She got huge, Now I top mine just to keep them small,
Plus bending them over don't even slow them down, any.
 
D.A.A.S.69 kingfish Yeah, remembered doing that with Red strain auto`s after seeing this little stick drawing on the internet. I forgot about it to be honest. If you bent then sharply as with supercropping could you supercrop as well as you bend? Great shout Kingfish and many thanks D....This is a good chat :) Do you know lads I`ve had a thought. Two types of growth, nodes equal on either side or staggered upwards like steps. Those staggered jobs aren`t manifold material. This circular method would handle this other option brillently I`m thinking. Good call Kingfish. Wish I`d read this earlier before I topped my step noding Red Diesel.
 
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Bud Bud-What a problem and it`s all my own doing. Transferred to a 20l airpot. Correcting the tear in the main stem has now given her a Heath Ledger Joker smile of a bend(Pics 1-2). Tied her down which re-opened the split which was mainly hardened stem wood so I clamped lower to stop split spread and that`s it. Tied the node growths down. Now the supercropping has twisted the ends of the 2 main side stems so they are not level. Structured ties so that this can be slightly rectified. Eight good growths ( Pic 3), back into vegging tent (Pic 4-She`s in the middle in the back row) and roughly 3 hrs later responding well (Pic 5) so happy and that`s it. Watered as well . and now left for a-whiles
Purple E-Before (Pic 6) Looked at area where I removed growth I had inadvertently broke off, growth is excellent (Pic 7)This heat is really knocking her. Less root growth though still impressive as I ransferred her to a 20l airpot, removed wood structuring stick and lightly started work on manifolding ( Pic 8-9) Think I removed some fan leaves as well to give more light. She`s bouncing back well as she was done later than Bud Bud so response would be later picture-wise compared to Bud Bud (Pics 10-Back row, closest right). Temp in tent nearly 30, temp in house nearly 30-just weather the storm of heatwave and slow growth. Watered her as well. :)
 

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I'm not arguing here but if you top where the new growth shoots are at least a half inch long it doesn't slow the plant its when you top and there are no new growth shoots that it slows the plant , I will have to try that method kingfish sounds interesting
 
I started this page on the 7th June. Seven weeks later and I have got to here. It could have been done easily I reckon, 2 weeks sooner but due to environmental factors eg how bloody hot it is, we are now only here. I had to destroy the 2 mother plants I had as it was so hot that the whole water/roots/leaves/evaporation broke down. Just couldn`t keep the heat down in the 12/12 tent. Into the low 30`s most of the time and they were mainly indicas loving types. Not bothered as the money it saves shutting down my 12/12 til cooler temps will be a pleasant sweetener. Also, I don`t want to flip anything before mid-late Aug at the earliest when temps are due to fall to seasonal average again so this is a nice, mellow grow. I do think though that a slightly longer veg allows for better training time to be put in and I think that shows here. Bear in mind, in winter I`d expect to see this around week 4-5 ish as a guide.
All three lasses have taken well to manifolding, canopy, such as it is, is pretty damn level on all three and really happy. A fly could skateboard across quite merrily.
Pic 1-Chemdog
Pic 2-Bud Bud (Structured heavily yesterday)
Pic 3-Purple E (Lighter structuring-again yesterday)
If you spend a little more time in veg it makes 12/12 a heck of a lot easier and more fun...May the road rise up to meet you. May the wind always be at your back. May the sun shine warm upon your face, and rains fall soft upon your fields ....unless you see Vikings. Then run like the clappers :)
 

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