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PH issue?
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CaptainWiese91
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What kind of soil is that ??
Do you have any perlite in it ?
what is your Ph? Do you know that ??
looks quite burned to me....
Do you have any perlite in it ?
what is your Ph? Do you know that ??
looks quite burned to me....
jwsarge2
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Hello CaptainWiese91 and thanks for your feedback,
The soil is https://www.homedepot.com/p/Kellogg...ium-Outdoor-Organic-Potting-Mix-681/100160888 and I have not added anything to it.
The PH is a light blue that per the color chart is in the low 8's range (to high I suspect) using the Mad Farmer PH Control Kit. Per the water company's web site 2020 measurements the water's average PH is 8.3.
This is measured from the tap used to water the plants, not runoff.
Problem is I have 4 15Gal Smart Pots and to use PH down every time I water is not practical. I have in the past grown some really outstanding plants without having to make any PH adjustments to the water used (same faucet).
Any other suggestions as to how to deal with to high a PH without adding PH Down every time I water will be most appreciated.
The soil is https://www.homedepot.com/p/Kellogg...ium-Outdoor-Organic-Potting-Mix-681/100160888 and I have not added anything to it.
The PH is a light blue that per the color chart is in the low 8's range (to high I suspect) using the Mad Farmer PH Control Kit. Per the water company's web site 2020 measurements the water's average PH is 8.3.
This is measured from the tap used to water the plants, not runoff.
Problem is I have 4 15Gal Smart Pots and to use PH down every time I water is not practical. I have in the past grown some really outstanding plants without having to make any PH adjustments to the water used (same faucet).
Any other suggestions as to how to deal with to high a PH without adding PH Down every time I water will be most appreciated.
CaptainWiese91
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You already know your answer. Your Ph is way too high..
I suggest you buy a Ph meter and measure the levels correctly instead of these strips..
Sometimes you can get lucky and wing a grow to harvest without measuring PH levels. But not every time.
its pretty Normal To measure the PH down or up every time you give a feeding, water or nute feeding, it’s the same.
when I want to get my Ph down in my bottle, I just add some citric acid from a organic lemon, and then measure it with a Ph meter. It’s really simple.
I have 25 plants and I don’t think it’s unpractical to measure the Ph ? I just make my bottles With Ph’ed water the day before, I want to water the plants.
cant really see that is unpractical??
I suggest you buy a Ph meter and measure the levels correctly instead of these strips..
Sometimes you can get lucky and wing a grow to harvest without measuring PH levels. But not every time.
its pretty Normal To measure the PH down or up every time you give a feeding, water or nute feeding, it’s the same.
when I want to get my Ph down in my bottle, I just add some citric acid from a organic lemon, and then measure it with a Ph meter. It’s really simple.
I have 25 plants and I don’t think it’s unpractical to measure the Ph ? I just make my bottles With Ph’ed water the day before, I want to water the plants.
cant really see that is unpractical??
CaptainWiese91
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Will he be saving money on not PH his water ?
F10werChyld
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If you want the outcome that you envision when you plant that seed, you have to put in the love. If I ever neglect my girls, they notice! So I don't do that anymore!!!:big-smile:
jwsarge2
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Hello again,
I have a PH Meter and yesterday bought the test kit I mentioned above as a second check. My water is hard here and obviously has an elevated PH. Again however I have 2 other plants that are doing fine so far. As I mentioned earlier I also have had very good luck over the past couple of years with my plants so while the PH in the local water is in the low 8's it's the same water I have always used. What else may be this plant's problem? There were a number of hot days recently (100F) or is this plant just a lemon for the lack of a better word? Has anyone tried using alternative methods to bring the PH down like distilled white vinegar or some other home remedy? Thanks again for the feedback and take care all...
I have a PH Meter and yesterday bought the test kit I mentioned above as a second check. My water is hard here and obviously has an elevated PH. Again however I have 2 other plants that are doing fine so far. As I mentioned earlier I also have had very good luck over the past couple of years with my plants so while the PH in the local water is in the low 8's it's the same water I have always used. What else may be this plant's problem? There were a number of hot days recently (100F) or is this plant just a lemon for the lack of a better word? Has anyone tried using alternative methods to bring the PH down like distilled white vinegar or some other home remedy? Thanks again for the feedback and take care all...
F10werChyld
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High pH usually locks out phosphorus (P) and magnesium (Mg) as the major nutrients, so maybe try a little boost of a good, organic vegetative food, and maybe a dose of cal-mag?
CaptainWiese91
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Yea citric acid as I mentioned above
CaptainWiese91
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I see ðŸ˜
CaptainWiese91
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Correct. Phosphorus is best obtained with a Ph in the 6,2-6,4 range.
Cal-mag also, but not under 6,2..
the problem here is the Ph for sure
Cal-mag also, but not under 6,2..
the problem here is the Ph for sure
jwsarge2
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Good morning all,
As I mentioned above I have 2 other plants that appear to be doing fine, same dirt, same water and from the same nursery; from a different outlet approx 2 weeks after I got the first plant which I pictured in my initial post. Any thought as to why these 2 seem to be doing better?
As I mentioned above I have 2 other plants that appear to be doing fine, same dirt, same water and from the same nursery; from a different outlet approx 2 weeks after I got the first plant which I pictured in my initial post. Any thought as to why these 2 seem to be doing better?
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SoOrbudgal
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These look bad not good so whom ever is telling you this are in good shape are lying. These are starved, underwatered now is the time to quickly fix the problem we are giving you our ideas and comments. Study what marijuana needs are and there likes. They are very basic plants.
Korn
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Gonna be honest with you Sarge. None of the plants look that great. Your soil mix has a lot of wood chips in it which are a source of carbon that microorganisms will break down if there is available nitrogen. The soil microorganisms will strip the nitrogen away from your plants, so to accommodate you will need to supplement your soil with additional nitrogen. That being said you really need to get your soil pH down to the 6.2-6.5 range. To do this you need to irrigate with water that is adjusted to pH of 6.0-6.2 using a source of acid such as citric acid as suggested by CaptWiese or some other acidic source. Not sure if vinegar (acetic acid) is the best source for this but you could check it out. Vinegar will definitely lower the pH of the water. I would look into commercial formulations used to lower soil and water pH such as Iron sulphate in fertilizers used to lower the pH for flowering plants such as azaleas, camellias, and hydrangeas. Once you get the pH down and feed them a balanced fertilizer with NPK, you may see an improvement. It may be too late for the tiny plant. Good luck.
crucialbunny
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Kellogg's uses a lot of animal waste in their products and it can burn the crap (bad pun, sorry) out of roots. I have a Kellogg's site not far from where I live and the manure smell is strong in that area. I did one of my early grows many years ago in one of their products and it was a horrible experience.
Korn
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If you go to the website using the link you provided above and look at all the reviews that gave only 1 or 2 stars you will see that others have had the same problems you are having with your plants. If I were you i would either start over again with new soil and new seeds or transplant what you have into new soil of a different brand. That soil is basically ground up wood.
jwsarge2
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Good morning all,
I really appreciate all the informative feedback everyone has provided over the past few days. For starters I am going to use Fox Farms products as per their instructions to boost the nutrients and at the same time use a 2 gal watering can with some Vinegar added so the water's PH is within the desired limits (verified) instead of watering via a hose straight from the faucet. Hopefully that will turn things around fairly soon so I don't have to change out the Kellogg dirt and re-plant except as a last resort. I can't believe this hasn't come up in the past but I am where I am presently. Have a great weekend...
I really appreciate all the informative feedback everyone has provided over the past few days. For starters I am going to use Fox Farms products as per their instructions to boost the nutrients and at the same time use a 2 gal watering can with some Vinegar added so the water's PH is within the desired limits (verified) instead of watering via a hose straight from the faucet. Hopefully that will turn things around fairly soon so I don't have to change out the Kellogg dirt and re-plant except as a last resort. I can't believe this hasn't come up in the past but I am where I am presently. Have a great weekend...