No3odiesShad0w
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Looking fantastic! I can imagine it smells lovely there. Keep up the great work! ðŸ‘
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Next Grow - A Recovery Attempt?
- Thread starter Bootsy
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Update. All three ladies are looking pretty nice to me and the tent is a fun place to breathe deeply. I am not sure of the original breeder but found flowering times of avg 63 and 77 days depending on breeder. since they are at 55 days it seemed time to check trichomes. the one under the Best VA is closer to done, so i only looked at her under the scope. see the attached photos - which to me show getting close. I typically dont like too much amber , and there is some. I am guessing less than a week to harvest for at least this one. very exciting as i wasnt expecting them for a few more weeks. The Best VA vs Spider Farmer does show a difference. see the microscope photos, which have one from each. the Crude Cake is getting close too, but guessing 2 weeks away. Im now into planning the next grow's strains, which will be 3 long flowering sativas, including Dr Grinspoon, Panama Red and an unchosen (which could be a second Dr Grinspoon), but I think a friend has acapulco gold that I could access. Amazing recovery for the girls, which to me shows they are truly weeds. these were easy except the training. More later. thanks for following.
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Orange Bubba - see photo of another flower sample from around halfway down the plant. i think i harvest earlier than many folks and this is where I typically like to do it (say 20%amber). this is the OB under the Best VA blurple style. the other under the Spider Farmer F1000 (and crude cake) are still with white pistils so they are waiting. i love it when they mature at different times. makes nothing urgent, and I hand trim so it takes quite awhile per plant. Really of flowersuper nice smell so hopefully super nice product . this is only 8 weeks, so I think this must be an indica leaning hybrid - my guess. I found on-line two different breeders with Orange Bubba and they were quite different in properties. Saturday is looking to be the day for first chop. Very glad i kept these three alive. My estimate is 2.5 ounces on this plant, but i have never been close on any quantity yet that I can remember.
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No3odiesShad0w
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Bootsy are you using one of those USB microscopes? I was thinking of getting one in the future. Seeing your pictures makes me want one more. It's looking like you have a nice harvest coming!
I'm interested in the light experiment you're doing. I'm currently using a spider Farmer sf2000 i think. I've been having good results with it and was considering in interesting in a second just like it. I see your burple light is getting better results (hard to tell since they're both different strains under different lights ... Could be strain related). I would consider a burple light but i have a small 25w one and i rarely ever use it. It's such a strain on my eyes. I have a Mars Hydro 600 LED (i originally bought it thinking it was equivalent to a 600w bulb lolol i was wrong. That's why my plants were so stretchy and thin. They would collapse under their own weight). I use the Mars Hydro for veg and the SF for bloom.
All that being said.... How well do you like the spider Farmer? Would you recommend it? Would you recommend a different light? Brand? I know there's plenty cheap Chinese crap so i try to get like Samsung diodes or something with a reputation. I have been saving so i plan to buy one within the next month or 2, especially since I've finally had a successful grow and looking like more success on the way. I also need a tent, more of that super soil and organic soil, humidifier and some other stuff. I think the most important is the light and soil for now.
I'm interested in the light experiment you're doing. I'm currently using a spider Farmer sf2000 i think. I've been having good results with it and was considering in interesting in a second just like it. I see your burple light is getting better results (hard to tell since they're both different strains under different lights ... Could be strain related). I would consider a burple light but i have a small 25w one and i rarely ever use it. It's such a strain on my eyes. I have a Mars Hydro 600 LED (i originally bought it thinking it was equivalent to a 600w bulb lolol i was wrong. That's why my plants were so stretchy and thin. They would collapse under their own weight). I use the Mars Hydro for veg and the SF for bloom.
All that being said.... How well do you like the spider Farmer? Would you recommend it? Would you recommend a different light? Brand? I know there's plenty cheap Chinese crap so i try to get like Samsung diodes or something with a reputation. I have been saving so i plan to buy one within the next month or 2, especially since I've finally had a successful grow and looking like more success on the way. I also need a tent, more of that super soil and organic soil, humidifier and some other stuff. I think the most important is the light and soil for now.
Hi No3odiesShad0w. The usb microscope I have cost $25 and has been a really useful fun toy. highly recommended.
Regarding lights, I had one Orange Bubba under the SF 1000 and it is doing a nice job and at the other side of the tent waqs the one under Best VA. Very slight difference in grow height and bud appearance so it's pretty much the same effectivenessas the Best VA 600's (which have 10 W diodes and were purchased for their intensity). That plant under the SF is ready for harvest today, so I think it i only 2 days behind what the other one was, and now that the buds are ripe I dont think I could tell the difference. The SF use a lot less power. In my other tent I have an MH TS3000, which is freaking awesome with it's depth of penetration. According to my PAR meter, I wont be able to run it at full power ever in my 5 ft high tent so it's somewhat overpowered. I also have another SF1000 in my little veg tent and it did a great job vegging a plant for a close friend. I wouldnt buy any more blurples myself, and am a fan of Mars Hydro and Spider Farmer. I will say that regarding the par maps the mfrs provide, the Spider Farmer was around 15% lower. I thought the SF1000 (which wont have a lot of penetration) might have inferior growth comparitively but it is not discernable to me. The spider farmer growth is quite nice if you look at the plant to far left in the photos. The Mars Hydro SF3000 PAR measurements indicate it has a slightly higher output than the mfrs ratings. I was just impressed by my blurples but will not buy again. This grow has convinced me to keep them until I find a great deal on a Mars Hydro TSw2000 for the 2 by 4 by 6 ft tent. there is so much second hand grow gear that i expect soon to find one cheap. None of the SF or MH seem to make colas as long as the HID 600W, but they both burn so much less (100 vs 160W) energy, which turns into heat that it allows me to run my fan at a lot lower speed because it generates so little heat. hope that helps. If I had the choice I would pick MH over the SF, but not by much.
Regarding lights, I had one Orange Bubba under the SF 1000 and it is doing a nice job and at the other side of the tent waqs the one under Best VA. Very slight difference in grow height and bud appearance so it's pretty much the same effectivenessas the Best VA 600's (which have 10 W diodes and were purchased for their intensity). That plant under the SF is ready for harvest today, so I think it i only 2 days behind what the other one was, and now that the buds are ripe I dont think I could tell the difference. The SF use a lot less power. In my other tent I have an MH TS3000, which is freaking awesome with it's depth of penetration. According to my PAR meter, I wont be able to run it at full power ever in my 5 ft high tent so it's somewhat overpowered. I also have another SF1000 in my little veg tent and it did a great job vegging a plant for a close friend. I wouldnt buy any more blurples myself, and am a fan of Mars Hydro and Spider Farmer. I will say that regarding the par maps the mfrs provide, the Spider Farmer was around 15% lower. I thought the SF1000 (which wont have a lot of penetration) might have inferior growth comparitively but it is not discernable to me. The spider farmer growth is quite nice if you look at the plant to far left in the photos. The Mars Hydro SF3000 PAR measurements indicate it has a slightly higher output than the mfrs ratings. I was just impressed by my blurples but will not buy again. This grow has convinced me to keep them until I find a great deal on a Mars Hydro TSw2000 for the 2 by 4 by 6 ft tent. there is so much second hand grow gear that i expect soon to find one cheap. None of the SF or MH seem to make colas as long as the HID 600W, but they both burn so much less (100 vs 160W) energy, which turns into heat that it allows me to run my fan at a lot lower speed because it generates so little heat. hope that helps. If I had the choice I would pick MH over the SF, but not by much.
No3odiesShad0w
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I saw the microscope on Amazon and it's on my wishlist. That will be a toy i will have loads of fun with; i can already tell!
About the lights, interesting. I would have thought SF to have been the better product just in terms of build and feel. The SF2000 is a heafty boy. It's gotta weigh 10lbs or more while the MH feels like a cheap aluminum hood. As far as the diodes go, it's possible MH has the better ones. They spend the money on the diode rather than the material of the actual light. The SF has a giant ballast(or whatever the LED equivalent of a ballast is 🙃) and then the dimmer switch with the daisy chain feature. All that adds weight and drives the price up
I'll definitely going to take your opinion very strongly into consideration for the next light. So I need to find a 2x4 MH and compare it with the SF2000. The 2x4 is the size i need. This way half of the room will be this nice grow space with access from 2 sides. I can have 4 in different stages of bloom this way I'll always have a steady fresh supply to smoke on, make my famous brownies with and not rely on the expensive medical dispensary. The electricity for running the SF2000 light 12hrs a day is only $6.80 for a whole month. The clones are free the soil is $40 and gives me about 10 -2 gallon pots. Water is a dollar a week. All that is nothing money while at the dispensary they want $80 almost for an 8th. And there's no insurance for weed.... Blah i digress. Thank you. I'll definitely look more into the MH because i was just tunnel vision on the SF2000 maybe i shouldn't tunnel vision. Thanks again!
About the lights, interesting. I would have thought SF to have been the better product just in terms of build and feel. The SF2000 is a heafty boy. It's gotta weigh 10lbs or more while the MH feels like a cheap aluminum hood. As far as the diodes go, it's possible MH has the better ones. They spend the money on the diode rather than the material of the actual light. The SF has a giant ballast(or whatever the LED equivalent of a ballast is 🙃) and then the dimmer switch with the daisy chain feature. All that adds weight and drives the price up
I'll definitely going to take your opinion very strongly into consideration for the next light. So I need to find a 2x4 MH and compare it with the SF2000. The 2x4 is the size i need. This way half of the room will be this nice grow space with access from 2 sides. I can have 4 in different stages of bloom this way I'll always have a steady fresh supply to smoke on, make my famous brownies with and not rely on the expensive medical dispensary. The electricity for running the SF2000 light 12hrs a day is only $6.80 for a whole month. The clones are free the soil is $40 and gives me about 10 -2 gallon pots. Water is a dollar a week. All that is nothing money while at the dispensary they want $80 almost for an 8th. And there's no insurance for weed.... Blah i digress. Thank you. I'll definitely look more into the MH because i was just tunnel vision on the SF2000 maybe i shouldn't tunnel vision. Thanks again!
No3odiesShad0w. I just remmbered that Nebula did a side by side test of both the SF and MH in that exact size (MH TSL2000 and SF2000). Have a look. she picked the SF as winner due to lower power consumption (200W vs 300W and all else basically the same. this somewhat changes my opinion, but I will likely be getting the first used one I see of either. the construction - i like the MH TS3000 with its cheap contruction as it is sooo light and dont see it as a negative. but using a lot less energy and having fewer isues due to spectrum are big things. I know I should worry more about efficiency. Part of my preference on the MH was that the SF1000s had lower measurements than they claimed, and i get wound up about that kind of thing.
this website has a lot o great info.
I think a friend is buying an MH TSL2000 in a used bundle so I may get to do a par test on it, but reading the GWE comparison again was very useful. so much newer gear available second hand here. I think it might have something to do with our city water having ph really high and very soft, so watering can cause issues. I assume this is why so much use equipment i available - great for me and my buds. I have counselled a couple of people who were giving up without realizing how easy it was to fix their main problem - PH. On an aside, Be well. all the best healthwise - I am waiting for final test results on my C. here's hoping....
this website has a lot o great info.
I think a friend is buying an MH TSL2000 in a used bundle so I may get to do a par test on it, but reading the GWE comparison again was very useful. so much newer gear available second hand here. I think it might have something to do with our city water having ph really high and very soft, so watering can cause issues. I assume this is why so much use equipment i available - great for me and my buds. I have counselled a couple of people who were giving up without realizing how easy it was to fix their main problem - PH. On an aside, Be well. all the best healthwise - I am waiting for final test results on my C. here's hoping....
To close out this post, I am quite happy with this grow. I will definitely in future ensure less colas so they have more space. the buds of Orange Bubba are much smaller and looser than when i grew normally in a manifolded method. i only got approximately 45 G of bud and 15 G of larfy bud/sugar leaves from each , but it was worth doing and was fun. the interim trip to Mexico with my spouse looking after let them get too bushy and I think reduced flower volume. the Crude Cake is now done too and she gave 65 G o pretty nice looking bud with 15 g of super nice trim with larfy buds for extract or the Magical Butter Machine. By the time she finished the leaves were almost all red or dead, just like wedding cake gets has in the past done for my friends and i here (as flowering progresses I normall let them get cool at night). Another wedding cake trend for me is that even though there were still more white pistils than typical for me, she had many amber trichomes on top and a few down low. Onward. My Indica tent is at 19 days and looking too crowded with 4 plants in the 3 by 3 tent, but that is all part of the fun. again the trip away took early control away of this one- but trip well worth it. They have been thinned out a lot yesterday and i have never thrown out as many flowers before - it was tough. I have also just started seeds for a sativa grow with Blackberry Durban, Dr Grinspoon and Panam Red in a 2 by 4 by 6 tent, so it will challenge my training and timing. Thanks for tuning in. Cheers.