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That’s weird. Burnt tips and fading color, you changed to flowering nutrients?? Maybe the npk ratio is too low on nitrogen for this plant, but I got no idea about the bugs so don’t trust my word haha let’s see what other people think
 
Yes, I'm using the Grow and Bloom nutrients, together with CalMag, worm castings and Molasses.
I'll cut out the Grow nutrients from now on. The feeding schedule says to use it at first, but then only the Bloom nutrients. I've only been using it since I've kept the dosage so low with everything. She's been green and healthy this whole time, so I figured I would watch her and change things up when she gave signs for me to change it. Why change something that isn't broke, right?

A normal mix these days would be something like this:

1 liter of water (pH'ed to 6.5 - 7.0)
2 ml CalMag
2 ml Grow
2 ml Bloom
50 ml BioWorm
1 teaspoon Molasses.

.. and these two last feedings 1 teaspoon Neem Oil for those bugs.

Guess I should have left the Grow out of it 2 feedings ago..

So I'll flush her when I get back. Try and sort this out I guess. Should have done it today instead of feeding her.
 
I do have an hour before leaving tomorrow morning. Should I flush her then, just to get it over with? Or would that create more problems with to much moist soil since I fed her today? Don't want to provoke root rot 9fingerleafs LurkingInTheGrass
 
I agree. Only time will tell, you could be looking at an old issue or a minor setback that requires no further action, see how the flush treats her and then resume feeding, if in this couple of days it gets yellow I would think it’s hungry for nutrients and you should increase feeding, I personally grow with botanicare and in similar doses, my leaves are so dark they kinda look blueish
 
Hey all!

Sorry for the wait, but you know how holidays are.

I'll start off with last week when I got home from visiting my family.

I got home the 27th of December, and waited till the next day to flush her.

So on the 28th I flushed her with 2.1 gallons (8 liters) of pH-regulated water, before I gave her a doze of feeding water (2 liters of water mixed with 4ml Bloom, 2ml CalMag, 60ml BioWorm and 1 teaspoon of Molasses).

While flushing her I measured the runoff and it came out at 7-8 pH for some reason, and it didn't really change at all during the flush. So I decided to feed her and let her dry out a little.

So I waited a few days, and she has gotten worse since then.

And last night (after a short week) she was dry enough for me to give the flushing another go, since she was looking so bad that I didn't have a choice really.

So I flushed her with 5 gallons (20 liters) of pH-regulated water, before I have her the feeding water (2-3 liters of water mixed with 5ml Bloom, 4ml CalMag, 50ml BioWorm and 1 teaspoon of Molasses).

But while I was flushing her I measured the runoff and it still came out at 7-8 pH. Even after the last can the runoff came out at 7-8 pH.

I don't know what is causing this. It's like someone put soap into my soil, because it's so base? basic?, you know.. high pH value. And nothing I've done this far have helped at all.
She is still getting worse, and by this point I actually think it's too late.


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The smaller leaves, inside the "buds" have started to turn yellow some places, and there's almost no more green leaves left on the rest of the plant.
I've already removed loads of leaves after they turned all white. Not just yellow, but all white and crunchy.

What should I do? The only thing I can think about is to change the soil, but I have no good way of doing that at this stage. The pot I'm using is quite large, and I can't rinse the soil of in the shower, that would ruin my plumbing. So I would have to remove the roil by hand, on top of some sort of cover to prevent my house to be messed up with soil everywhere. And it's way to cold to take it outside.

This is making me really angry because she was doing perfect. And then suddenly everything just went to shit. I believe it to be the nutrients at first. That I had been giving her Grow nutrients together with her Bloom nutrients, and maybe messed up the pH a little with to much salt in the soil or something. But this is not caused by that. This is something else entirely.

I need help her guys. This one is close to the end if I can't turn this around somehow :(

- C
 
The blooms are still looking good so I wouldn't totally write off the plant. You just need to keep the rest of the plant going for a few weeks. Did you still see bugs in the runoff? I wouldn't be changing the soil at this stage of the game. Is it possible to put a stopper over your shower drain? Then give it a really good flush. You could bail the water out and into the toilet. Sounds ultra messy, but there are only three dimensions in this universe. That we are aware of anyway.
 
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I would think you flushed too much, or just not enough nutrients in the soil. Ph out of range causes ugly spots and discoloration, and nitrogen is still absorbed at high ph. I don’t know what’s going on but I would stop flushing and feed
 
After reflecting on this for a bit I am wondering if there is something down in the soil attacking the roots. You did have that bug problem. What concentration of neem oil did you use? From past experience I have noticed that lower concentrations will sometimes not work. I believe the maximum concentration for a drench is 4 tablespoons per gallon of water. I dunno. Just a shot in the dark.
 
Hey guys!

9fingerleafs I don't what is causing this, but the problem started before I did any flushing. But I'll try and feed her more from now on to see if it helps.

starramus Well.. I've thought the same thing actually, but I did use a healthy amount of Neem Oil in two of the feedings. 1 teaspoon pr liter (0.26 gallon).
So I've actually been thinking that maybe the Neem Oil is causing the pH to be high? The Neem Oil has kind of a liquid soap type of consistency, so maybe the oil is alkaline (has high pH)? Anyway.. there were still bugs in the runoff when I did this last flushing. Not too many of them, but they were there. Neem Oil does not kill bugs, it only gets absorbed in to the plant, which will "affect" the bugs who eat of the plant, making them starve to death eventually. I believe? So maybe these bugs can live a long time without eating.

This is kind of what they look like. Or, I'm not sure.. I've only seen them in my runoff, but they have the same shape and color.
https://www.pestwiki.com/springtails-facts-identification-control/
 
My tap water is about 8-8.5 pH so I can't use it for flushing without regulating it with some pH-down.

So what I did was place a large bucket on the floor and put a rail from my oven (you know the ones you have inside your oven, which you make pizza etc on?) on top of the bucket. Then I placed the plant on top of that and watered it heavily with pH-regulated water. That way I could measure up quite a bit of water and use it since the runoff would end up in the bucket, and the bucket would contain a lot of water before I had to empty it.

I did this for about an hour. Ended up with about 20 liters of runoff in my bucket, before I watered with feeding water containing nutrients. So my hope is that this will get better from now on.

The only thing that makes me doubt it is the fact that my runoff came out at really high pH. Red is really acidic, yellow to green is in the middle, green is on the higher side of the scale (still ok) and green to blue is to high, while blue is really alkaline. And my runoff came out green/blue in color, which translates to 7-8 pH. And the only thing I've done since day 1 is to water her with nutrients, and a little while ago some Neem Oil. And all this time, after the little setback at the beginning, the pH of my runoff has been about 6.5 every single time. And then suddenly out of the blue, the pH rises really high, really fast.

I don't get it. It might be the bugs causing it, or it might have been the Neem Oil. I don't know. All I know is that this makes no sense. She was growing beautifully, looked green and healthy. And then suddenly yellow and pale, crumbling and looking sickly for no given reason.
 
Yes, I can get one of those here too. I'll be getting one later if this last effort do me no good.
I'm kind of hoping that the problem is solved, and that I only need to give her time and nutrients from now on.
But I'm still scared of those bugs and what they might be up to, if they're harmful or not.
 
Cocho that was not a very high dose of neem oil. My neem oil concentrate recommends 4 tablespoons per gallon. You roughly had 1& 1/3 tablespoons. The instructions say to get rid of springtails use the correct concentration. I would say a tablespoon per liter would do no harm.

However this might get rid of the buggers and lower your ph as well. "Vinegar is very acidic, so if you spray it on a springtail, it will kill them. You can use the cheapest vinegar to do this to save money. This is not a project to waste you fancy vinegar on. Put it in a spray bottle or if you have a lot of springtails in a tub or toilet, you can just pour it in." Check out this web site. https://www.solutionsstores.com/how-to-get-rid-of-springtails-naturally Hopefully this will resolve your issue.
 
starramus Really? Ok, I'll try and add a higher dose of Neem Oil next time. Thought 1 teaspoon pr liter would be enough. But then again.. I've never used it before.
 
No, not really. I've yet to see any of them on the surface. And they're really small. Tiny. If I didn't look closely on the runoff I would've never noticed them. They're more like tiny white dots floating in the water.

What I can say though is that they're "long", slender and have several legs.
 
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