New Grower Here!!!

[Mr.furley]

It's time for a update.

Autoflowers are starting to stretch and drinking a lot more frequently, this is different from the humidity drop as the plant is using what I'm giving it not just transpiring it to the air. They have grown substantially over the last week, stocks are large, Leaf is filled back in, and the plants look like they're starting to stack.


I have feed them 3 waterings in a row, 3ml grow big, 10ml big, and 5ml Tigar. Today they got a good calmag/sladgehammer flush, then I did my final tie down to spread them out and level them off, no more defoliation only tucking for now.


I had decided that I'm only going to run 3 photoperiod plant and one of the Blue dream is getting ditched, the other got transplanted today into its final home, a 7 gallons smart pot. The 2 grape ape will be transplanted in a couple days to not overlap any transplant shock, the idea is to have the plant that is behind set roots and be growing again before transplanting the Grape Ape, this is the last step I can take to catch up plant size.

The photoperiod plant are now residing in the other room under one light. The Autos have there own home.


Growers Love peeps

 

[Mr.furley]

As a New Grower patience is a must and mine is getting tested all the time.

I really want to defoli the Autoflower plants but I am keep the scissors at bay, well maybe I'll take a little. One of them has set budlets a little faster then the others and I lollipop her today, the others are needing a couple more days before I do the same thing to them. After the autos have set buds I plan on take a lot more leaf but for now my gut tells me to put the scissors down. I'm trying out some free samples of Bud builder(2ml) and bud candy(2ml) I got a couple months back on the autos to see if I can notice a different in favor and size, got a lot of changes for me this year and contemplating a different nutrient line.
for the most part the autos are just auto-ing day 42ish.

The Blue Dream is growing great and has caught up to the to Grape apes in size wise so I transplanted the two of them, LOOK AT THEM ROOTS eh! I cut off some growth tips to reshape the plants, took two clones from each plant and thinned them out. I keep all the Phenotype I run in case I find some bomb genetic for mother plants, I try and run each plant with potential twice looking at things like how well they hold up in heat, resistance to bug's, nutrient use, training ability and of course how it smokes.

Everything is in its permanent home and I'm still working a few projects around things. All the photoperiod Plants are in 7 gallons pots with 6 inch pot root balls, this morning they each got 2 gallons of water/nutrient concentrated on the middle of pot, not water to the edges it produced about 50% runoff and I have add a fan on the floor runs under the pots to help dry the bottoms out that do not have root yet.

Iv got deficiencies running it course on the Grape ape plants and this is no suprise, here is a really good look at multiple mobile and immobile nutrient deficiencies.

If you remember I cut the nutrients and light from the Grape ape to slow them down now this needs to be addressed but I'm really not worried about the light green leaf, purple vein, and spots after all they have only been been fed twice in the last two or so weeks, I have to remember that For the most part they have just got calmag water all the other times with the adding of transplanting and Chopped on to the list, most of this growth will be removed down the road and my only concern is the damage could slow photosynthesis down for a short time. As fast as I wish they were going patience is a must right now and all I can really do for them and start feeding. There's a fine line between slowing of plant down and causing problems, technically I'm ahead of schedule for the grow year with the new lights working at lower watts hitting ppfd numbers for Veg, temperature from new fans in better check, heck Last year I didn't even have my big lights on at this time.

Photoperiod room

Sum it up, besides tinkering around with new things I'm just wait and watering. I'm really enjoying doing a detailed Journal, it's been years and really hard for me to get good pics of big floppy plants in this room under orange lights.
hope you all are enjoying the ride as much as I am.

Mr.Furley

 

[PLreef]

Thanks for the update Mr.furley ! They're looking pretty damn good man.

 

[growell]

nice one furley look good mate

 

[Canuck147]

I find i can trim off all the leaves I need to on my autoflowers as much as I want - until the plant begins her flowering stretch. Then they don't grow back. I have one right now that I have been defoliating every second day - but now she is stretching - so i have to leave my scissors in the cupboard.
So go ahead and open up those bud sites.
Plants look great by the way.

 

[Mr.furley]

Thank you Canuck147 for your advice and confirming what I should have been doing the last two weeks. I have to admit I'm a little hesitant to cut on this like I do photoperiod Plants, last year I took several leaves every couple days all the way through the stretch and into flowering, I think you just saved me from repeating my mistake. While those plants were under low-light they never stop stretching and just seem to keep stalling. I think it was due from constantly clipping on them with bad timing.

Took about 30 leaves off the 3 plant I didn't cut yesterday, I stand over my plants and look down into them to remove leaf, next I worked a little bit underneath and lollipop each of them to remove some of those annoying little branches in the way of watering. I'll wait two days and then do all four of them again a little more.

before

After
different plant

Thanks again.

 

[Canuck147]

Looks great - i also find if they only pout for one day - then keep at it.

 

[AccidentalGardener]

taking this advice right now and let my photos do what they do instead of continually clipping on them. I want them to start going up, and once the branches decide who is moving into the light....then they'll get it one more time, except for the stray leaf.

 

[Mr.furley]

Thank you PLreef

 

[Mr.furley]

Thank you growell

 

[Mr.furley]

All right I'm on a update.
Temperature have been great! But my humidity on the auto table not so much and this needs to be addressed 😒 with the AC off I have a free 6 inch duct and have another Infinity fan on its way to add to the Autoflower table. The other room has all the outtake and intakes from this room, this room only has fresh air intake, it needs it's own exhaust, AHHH! New grow environment.

Autos had two good rounds of de-leafing and lollipopping never really pouted, took a little off 2 plants today and I still would like to remove some more because the group together looks thick separately they look good, Ill most likely pick at them a little more. The truth is they are overcrowded, larger then I had expected and feel that 4 well growing autos is to much for the space so after this run I will cut down to only two autos with more room to train or I will run 1 plant starting ever 4ish weeks perpetually for the GC420 light and space. Speaking of the light, it has grown some nice healthy plant, thick stocks, bushy it's what I expected now it's time to see what kind of Bud swells up under it.

One of the plants is way behind the others(back left), Hummmmm? I'm showing two stretchy sativas, one squatty indica and one like the stretchy sativas a week ago.
Could it be the late bloomer? They all got mixed up, no 1-2-3-4 labels, No notes, straight free handing this auto grow from here and memory, I lost her in the pile some time ago, It's not like I can keep the Phenos so every two days, pots are light when I lift them, full nute-nute-nute-sledgehammer-repeat. I'd like to note this is not my normal watering practices with my Photoperiod grows, I'm pushing more nute watering but using sledgehammer on the regular.

Blue Dream clone and Grape ape are playing leap frog, more like I'm making them play. The blue dream has taking off found her home, so the net went in. This is the second time Iv run BD off the mother and is technically a eight months old plant. Grape Ape is still stretching her legs, I'm expecting it to take off soon. I'm not worried, pots are drying faster, water has increased, nutes-water-nutes-water repeat. It will take the time it takes to fill the net, by using a larger pot, less plants, in a scrOG a 10 week veg was about my Target for the flip. I am keeping notes on the Photo's
Grape ape #1

Blue Dream

Grape ape #2

I talk about my new watering system next update.
Thanks for the ear.

 

[SoOrbudgal]

What a great informational grow here Mr.furley. I mean this is text book material of learning. Thanks for doing all that you do.

 

[growell]

Looking good mate they have shot up since last time i am useing full nutes all the way every water had no problems really once i got temps right has the light been worth the money up till now can u tell diffrence from old one cant wait to hear your new watering either mate

 

[AccidentalGardener]

If those are autos, I'm in trouble, lol. They look maaaahvelous!

 

[TenX2]

Although I'm a relative Newby grower, (actually, I AM a Newby grower 😆) I can relate to "loving a way you have always done thing's that have always worked for you", to "trying something new to you that is out of your normal comfort zone"..
LEDS seem to be the Way of the Future growing and as you said, a 'cooler., (scuse the pun..😉), option for growing in those hot summer's.
Loving the knowledge from GWE and now with this forum, its manna from the heaven's being able to share information with other growers..
All of it!! The Good, the Bad and the Ugly..😊 (Id rather learn from someone else's mistakes than my own, ay? )
Will be keeping an eye on your progress!!

 

[Mr.furley]

Thank you, very nice of you to say and my pleasure to share.

 

[Mr.furley]

Thank you.
The growth so far had been good, its just to soon to compare. Blue Dream is my control, i know what it can do under Hid lighting to compare old lights to the new ones we will all have to wait till she's in the jars.

 

[Mr.furley]

Thank you.
They're good sized plant and just getting started flowering. it's looking like I'm going to get the chance to test out the manufacturers 6-inch from plants claim.

 

[Mr.furley]

Thanks for joining my three ring circus I call growing and welcome to the Fourm.

Iv never been in a big commercial grow that runs only led but have seen what people on this forum have been doing with them over the last 4 years and how the lights have improved/involved, they have noticeably changed my environment, that was one of my goals, so far so good but its still going to be hard to persuade me from Hid after my time with them, only the buds in my hand will convince me they are right for my rooms.

Growing cannabis is just one of those things that until you've had the personal success and the down falls it will always suprise you. This website and forum is informative, easy to use and a friendly place on the net for new growers, old growers, new experiences and just out right sharing.

I look forward to watching you grow.

 

[TenX2]

Mr.furley.. Thank you for such a lovely reply! I certainly look forward to sharing more.
(Who doesn't?! Especially the successes!! 😊)
The positive here about sharing the down-falls is that we all get a little more savvy with the knowledge and hopefully learn from others' experiences
Cheers from Down Under