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neighbours - originally overpotted - transplant advice

Saturn

Saturn

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Afternoon everyone,

we have another transplanting question, we're growing for RSO and these 2 plants (strain unknown) were planted by the patient a little before we came. They were overpotted, close together and dry. We were nervous about hurting them as they also had a cake cutter around the stems of both (apparently to keep moisture closer to roots) - it's odd but there you go. They're sturdier now and we removed the cake/ cookie cutter today.

We're growing under 1 x CFL - plan to use 2 later on. (no other lighting options available here)

Now the problem is they are too close together and (i think) starting to compete. Is it too late to transplant to separate pots? Are the roots probably too entagled? Can I do anything to reduce the root damage if i do transplant? Can they flourish next to each other like this?

Also - they are approx 1 month, is their growth on the slow side? (i know this is a tricky question without all the details)

thanks a million!
 

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I can all but guarantee they're tangled up.

The growth is decent for 1 month, a little stretched. I'd definitely separate them asap. You'll have to decide which you want to keep in case they're too tangled up and can't be transplanted. Just kill one and keep the roots in there. You can get an enzyme to help decompose the dead roots.

Hope this helps.
 
Separating them will be a work of patience. Try first pulling them apart oh so gently. If that doesn't work, run them under gentle water removing slowly the soil which will help separate the roots. Gentle is the key here. Good luck! Then you have 2 bare root plants. I've done it a couple of times at work on different plants and it worked. Def some post transfer schock but they survived.
 
Do you need both plants? if not just cut one out you'r right on the start of training and if you transplant again it will be longer for that.

You can do it but sets you back some.
 
Agree that the sooner you give them their own space, the better. Still lots of growth potential, provided you do the separation as gently as possible. Good luck! 🌿🌿
 
Thanks LuckyAcres - we'll have a go at separating them - i wish i had started this before but we were nervous about the shock killing them altogether. Would it be worth trying to separate them in a bowl of water to tease apart the roots without the tap??
 
We have oil until approx sometime in Jan - the autos should be ready for March so in a way no we don't need both but i'd prefer to keep to put some oil in store for future so we don't have a shortfall like we're facing in Feb.
 
Yes the bowl is a great idea. You got the idea, tweak as needed. Let us know how it goes, take pics, make a tutorial out of it even
 
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well... today was d day for one of them. we tried to separate as gently as possible but one stayed together nicely and the other came out definitely missing a chunk of roots.

Result is - shorty looks ok (roots with v little damage), lofty had a bad time - 1 hour later becoming veeeery drooooopy.

Soil is still no good - tight and hard as per other posts, although I added some aggregate to aid drainage.

What do you think? Also should I trim lofty of that upper growth (or "top"? - i know nothing about plant training - it's the next mission)

Otherwise it's wait and see i guess.

thank you all so much for all your help
cheers!
 

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It will be OK, positive vibes. Lot of stress, but given time day or 2 probly bounce back. Give it a lil less intense light, will be less stressful on plant.
 
Lofty would probably recover much more easily if you removed some of the growth she was supporting with roots intact. And you would also be helping to train it to a more compact shape at the same time.
 
thanks very much, we watered after transplant - not so much that there was flow from the bottom as the pot felt real heavy and the soil seems to hold quite a lot of water.

positivity ;) - whenever we go to see "the babies" we sing something (I'm on an Everley Brothers moment now)
 
Water is good at transplant.just make sure it's not still wet when next water. After you transplant, less intense light till they perk up, then it's back normal.
 
Yeah, I would top it right at the bend, then the side shoots will take over the forward growth once roots start regenerating. Looks like there's enough leaf area left if topped this way to give her some strength to recover.
 
Curious...once these two are growing strong and need repotting, what are your plans for soil and pot size, as well as nutrients if soil doesn't have enough on its own?
 
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