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SOIL Mixed Grow 2021

Puglover1

Puglover1

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A confession and a plea -

I'm a girl, I'm good at math, I can read, comprehend, analyze, follow directions, and I'm a visual learner with a photographic memory. I can grow marijuana but I'm still trying to learn the training part. When I first posted here I had 3 indica photos growing that would've flowered into my attic if not for the selfless, expert advice and mentoring of Mr.furley I'm forever grateful for the plentiful harvest I was able to achieve with his guidance. He showed me where to top, I topped them. I did LST, supercropped, broke and mended a couple of branches, but I sucked at defoliating the jungle.

I decided to grow autos this summer, to learn from the starting gate. I got the short end of the stick, the shortest, finished-growing plant that I've seen on the site so far. What I learned is that autos might not be my jam.

Now here I am, growing a sativa and three White Widow Fasts in the same closet. I need to add soil/perlite to make up for watering/shrinkage, np. I've topped two plants, another needs topping, the 4th wants to grow sideways. I'm trying to keep a level canopy and flip to 12's as soon as possible because of the sativa. I plan to use tension rods on each end of the closet to clip fans onto, only things on the floor will be the 4 bags and a mini humidifier. I have a lesser-quality full spectrum light to hang on one end for full coverage. I have only used plant hooks so far to start some training, I want to put on the safety pins and get out the spool of twisty ties tomorrow. WW2 & WW3 were started in Solo cups, WW2 grew taller. I'm not sure which of 2 nodes would be best to top her. I've never laid down a plant to train before but I've seen beautiful outcomes from growers here who have. Help? I know that leaves growing toward the soil get removed, I'm not sure how much to take off at a time and does that go for growth sites also or will they find the light and grow upward?

I'll post pics of each plant below, taken at 7 pm Saturday. I am totally open to advice, criticism, ideas and questions if anyone has the time or generosity to guide/teach me what I haven't been able to figure out by extensive reading. I suck at defoliating, they're growing well and looking good, I don't want to mess it up now. Please and thank you.
 

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Keep doing what you are doing they look great. Maybe before the switch you should top your WT girl since she's a sativa dominant. Remember they stretched faster, taller than indicas.
 
They're lookin great 👍 as for the leaves and branches growing towards the soil in my experience if you let them grow they will be shorter than the top and side ones unless you slow the others down by tying them down or supercropping them. I personally started cutting them off it just takes the hassle out of it, it's hard enough to get the rest of them even.
Topping... I will top mine either above the 4th or 5th node it depends on node spacing mostly, the 4th node gives you 8 branches/tops to work with, 5th is obviously 10 tops.... I just look at the plant and if I think I can manage 8 or 10 .....

I started main-lining plants and found it to make it easier to train them, I think because they grow more spread out instead of the branches competing for the same space and I already know what and where I'm going to make my cuts, how I'm going to tie them... plus main-lining makes the prettiest colas 😋😁
 
Last night before I went to bed around 4ish I was deleting emails. The GWE newsletter hit, Nebula had a section about defoliating. I planned to mainline a couple but I wasn't feeling well, they got ahead of me. Same today, my big accomplishment will be watering the plants, they looked thirsty this morning, I misted the tops and sides of the bags until I feel like watering. I already carried the gallons back there, I watered Thurs morning, surprised they were ready already. Pets are fed, been outside 5x, my other babies get care next. I did remove some low leaves yesterday. Gave the cat a choice, he ate 6 fingers from a sativa leaf, he left the middle finger, lol. Later I held out a WW leaf, he ate it out of my hand. Better than straight from the plant wherever he chooses. I thought I should have cut WT lower, thinking the same with WW2. I planned two of those plants but accidentally germed an extra seed.
 
I did top but I probably should have gone lower on WT. A leaf is blocking the cut stem in the pic above. I want to flip as soon as I can. That's my pain medicine, they aren't growing it here anymore so I Have to do it. I baby it, I'm not looking for a monster plant just some medicine. I know people who work at the dispo who want Wild Thai but the growers are crossing it, citing mold issues. They've been saying that for three years now. South Beach - it has gotten me to sleep fast 3 nights in a row. Those are seeds I want next if available.
 
Here Puglover1 what WOS has to say about Wild Thai : "This is a cannabis plant with very high THC content. Highly valued by Asian growers for production and resistance to pests. Its powerful Sativa genetic and sweet taste, you will travel to the heart of Bangkok. THC Level: 22.3% measured upon the rest of cannabinoids.(taking an account THCV too), 9.7 % measured upon the rest of organic substances belonging to buds like: aminoacids, sugars, terpenoids, vegetal hormones, and cannabinoids (determined by gas chromatography coupled with mass spectrometry)."

Reason why I like to grow SE Asian strains. You know, the Kali type non ? Kali for me is the "narcotic" kind of medicinal.Similar to Thai Stick of the late 70"s. Yeah kinda remind me when I met for the very first time Miss "white opium dry crystal in Hash". Very "hallucinatic" ok not a word, you know what I mean !! Kinda of hallucinogens types of medicinal.
 
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Then keep an eye on the third one, I'm counting on you !! Look don't you think I have pression on my shoulder by growing for the very first time an auto's grow non ? Shit ! My testosterone pride is on the line here madame. Oui... Après tout je suis de la vieille école mon ami. Take care of her. Good strains are hard to find lately. My dream is to get the famous Kali Mist the famous Sativa Queen once more.
 
I bought 7 of the WT seeds, should have 5 left. I want to buy some Mag seeds while they're available and I'd like to grow pre-98 Bubba. Your Mazar-I-Sharif sounds good. Or the real Maui Waui or Kona Gold. I know my Columbian buzz, bought some Columbian Gold at the dispo once, not even close. If only we could know the strains we were smoking 25 years ago. I remember a few so well, like it was yesterday. I would so like to find the one that helped pain, gave me energy and a nice high ... and made me start painting a room, lol. I just topped the orange bag WW2 and FIM'd #3, might as well have variety. Took a couple big fan leaves and fed the cat, broke part of a little new top growth stem, only had a piece of blue painters tape nearby, couldn't turn my back on the cat, hope it works. I know I'll be able to clone some WTs, they could be bartering material if I find a presser. Killed a metallic turquoise bug in the closet tonight, damn cat's not earning his keep.

I sure wish you better genetics with your autos Farmbuck. I've seen other growers' autos start from seed in bags and they look like my WWI, big fan leaves filling the bag from the start. I started two white widow fast seeds same way same day, they grew up next to each other from paper towels to solo cups in the closet, one stands tall, has bigger node spacing, one is shorter and wanted to grow sideways. I know you will do well, you know how to train the girls, have good lighting, experience, just one thing out of your control. I'd never blame you if you get small plants but I sure hope you don't. And I hope you will be able to offer advice on the WTs when needed, you're the photo and sativa man. :) I'm going to peruse Nebula's defol links more thoroughly, just not tonight. Are you still planning to winter in the sunny peninsula? I met a gal from KY on Twitter, she used to teach at Uni of Guatemala, told me about the area, Lake 'Something' 45 minutes away, lot of expats. I was looking on the map, thought about you.
 
Farmbuck I don't know much about Kali but you make it sound very inviting. I use Wild Thai when my knee pain ramps up fast and hard, it helps within 10-15 minutes. I've never really evaluated its high, I hoarded it for breakthrough pain only. Hopefully I can have enough to do both in the future. If I grew a clone and forced flower would I get some medicine to use sooner? If I could've predicted my auto disaster I would've started WT in March, even if I had to buy a portable AC.

I haven't had a hallucinogen in decades but I liked chocolate mescaline over mushrooms or acid. And I preferred dry 'shrooms over wet, I'd cut up the dry ones and swallow them. The smell reminded me of stinky socks but I sure enjoyed the laughs. Actually, I liked Quaaludes over any other buzz. Happy pills, someone I strongly disliked could walk into the pub and I'd say Hello to them, lol. And it was respected, we only drank fine wine with 'Ludes, no hard liquor.

Seedsman had good to say about WT, and that it can be flipped to flower early. That's why I want to get the WWs growing right, no delays. If they're genetics are good and they flower fast it should work out OK. Says the person whose next tattoo will be "Murphy's Law".
 
Thanks bboyfromwayback I have some big, thick, square wood flooring samples, thought about your eye hooks and circles but my closet is only 2 feet deep. The squares would fit but a big plant might not. Can't wait to know your weights when that beauty is finished.
 
Farmbuck, I meant Guadalajara not Guatemala, duh. Lake Chapala is the town/city 45 minutes away. On Trip Advisor a retired writer posted an article: she has a 3500 sq ft house with a casita, and paid help. Her taxes were equivalent to $160 USD for a year. With a two solar panels their electric bill is $6 US/month. I guessed you to be in that area, not over by Cancun. Most people with two homes have someone local who checks on them for them. Would you ever live there full-time? The article I read said that Lake Chapala/area gets this two-month mosquito invasion where people don't leave their homes bc it's so bad.
 
Puglover1 Guadalajara is about 2.5hrs by plane from where we are. We are 4.5hrs from Cancun's airport by car. Would I ever live there full-time ? Nope just too hot during summer months and beside their mosquito season start in April, the reason why we move from the Yucatan area to Puerto Morelos for the end of winter then we fly back home.
We love our little casita and most of all we adore the local in the village, wonderful people. Most of them are maya descendants, you need to speak a bit of Spanish to get by cuz you are far away from the tourist area except for Puerto Morelos. But then the majority of expats are Americans and Canadians so no we don't have a problem to communicated with the local always find someone to translate. One of our friend Rita she's from south of Mexico City, she speak english so she is our translator on occasion loll
 
Do you keep a car/vehicle down there? I'd like to sell my house and live in rent-controlled senior housing apartments (not a high-rise). They have a two-pet limit, the cat never leaves the house, I could sneak him inside. But having a winter place could be difficult. I'd never fly the pugs in cargo, a smooshed-face breed died in cargo a few years ago. They no longer allow therapy dogs in cabin, only service dogs. Unless my old boss would fly me down in his private plane I don't know. I want to be by water but not in TX or FL. The gal from KY wants to move to IL, she offered to teach me Spanish, she taught English in Guadalajara. Once you know another language, like French, it's easier to understand other languages while reading them. When they speak fast it's another story.
 
I just looked back through my Wild Thai pictures folder. This was the end, the last pictures taken before I was too sick, they still got watered. I was begging for help, discarded by the ER, 3 days later collapsed, couldn't stand up, had to call an ambulance on my old, no-data phone because the other phone had Black Screen of Death. That was an omen.

Anywho, I liked how well those White Widow fast fems were growing but I used all the beans. I just ordered some more from Seedsman because that's who has them. Also ordered Critical Mass and am getting Jack Herer freebies that I will probably never grow. Seeds were going out of stock so fast that was the only non-auto freebie choice left, I missed out on GDP photo seeds and a better freebie, my cart kept shrinking. Hopefully this will get the lights turned back on, I haven't even opened the new light I bought to fill out the closet.
 
Hi pugs, I have 3 CM photo at 3 weeks right now from ILGM. It was my first grow a year ago. I got 7 oz dry from that grow 3 plants plus a clone with a thousand mistakes, lol! That run was coco, this time is living soil. 2 in 1 7 seven gal bag, 1 in another and 1 purple bubba in a third which was gifted by my friend BU2B My 2 1/2 x 4 ft cabinet is maxed out now. I thought about 2 10's but it would cramp my plans. i've been reading about bigger pot, bigger plant so we'll see how 2 in 1 7 will do. I plan to trim and manage as 1 plant which should be interesting as well.
 
Thanks Bowhunterwoody Hopefully soon.

Hey TOKABIGONE I am interested to watch both you and BU2B grow those 2-in1's. I was growing that Wild Thai in a 5 gal bag, with the saucer, grate, bag, soil and plant I can't say that it was easy to move around, I ended up spinning the grate to turn the plant. I'm a girl who used to be strong, now I'm trying to heal angry muscles. Or to not tick them off any more. I want to get watering rings, funnels and tubing to make it easier on myself. Use my multitude of empty 28 oz Powerade bottles to mix water, I can fill them in the attached bathroom pedestal sink, dechlor, then pH or give whatever they're getting and have them ready ahead of time in a milk crate. Using Stonington Blend soil makes it easier. You did well last grow. Last year I ordered ten 1 gallon bags for herbs but received ten 10 gal bags, only place I'd ever use those would be outdoors. That's doubtful. My grow closet bedroom needs purging & organizing, extra lights in boxes, boxes from things that are out of warranty, and fans that'll die before they'll need their boxes back. Trim bin, nutes I didn't use for 6 months, a big bin & a box of framed pictures that were being stored in the guest shower during some painting, then I needed the shower for a drying area. I do better when things are in order, I have enough chaos. I'm interested to see how your bigger pot theory works out!
 
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