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Making Tinctures

As someone else interested in getting started making tinctures, I thank you for starting this thread!
 
I've experimented with decarb flower then soak in EverClear to make GoldenTiger. So far that is the strongest stuff I've made.
I've also evaporated the Golden Tiger down to goo and put in a gel cap. Good, but not the same as liquid form. Slower come on, longer lasting, not as intense.
I've also soaked leaves and trim in EverClear, evaporated and vaped. Now THAT is best done sitting down. No decarb involved.
And lastly, soaked leaves and trim in EverClear, evaporated down to tar, then decarbed the tar (see my Safer RSO thread). So far that is the least effective.
Which I believe is due to the quality of leaf I used.

Of those experiments, Golden Tiger from decarbed flower has the strongest effects. Comes on faster (within 15 min) and is most intense.

I decarb by floating an alum. herb storage canister on heated peanut oil. Oil is heated with a digital induction hot plate with confirming digital thermometer in the oil.
I heat to 240F for 110 minutes. 1 oz of EverClear to 1 gram of flower. Soak and strain. Drink somehow or evaporate to tar and consume.
5ml to 15ml is good for most folks. I've done 30-45ml a couple of times. Which would not be a good time to try to renew your Chess Master Certificate.
A friend did 15 ml after doing 5 and 10 several times. 15 ml was too much. He had a very uncomfortable few hours.

Dutchman has some good techniques I want to try.
 
Im waiting for the NOVA decarboxylater right now before I make any more batches. Also going to do a fan reduction next time instead of heating.
 
Is curing the flower/trim necessary in the edibles/tinctures recipes? I know drying and decarbing are part of the process, just not sure if curing is necessary?
 
I don't think curing is necessary. My next harvest I'll just dry some buds as dry as my tent can dry them and then into the freezer awaiting QWET.
 
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I just made tinctures yesterday actually and neither drying nor curing are necessary. Drying and curing are only preparing your bud for ideal consistency and moisture for burning or vaping. Decarbing will transform the compounds regardless if they are dry or not. The only difference is the decarb process will take longer with fresh plant. I put mine in Pyrex dish covered in tin foil with holes for about 90 minutes at 230F, checking and turning every 20 min or so until they were turning golden brown and crunchy.
Then I did a water bath at 170F in 100 proof vodka for about 30 min. Strained and voila! Tried it out yesterday and it was potent AF haha. It was my first time but I'm super impressed!
 

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Ive done it both ways and noticed no difference except for extra time to decarb with higher moisture content.
 
Finished my second tincture, first using the Everclear/Freezer method. I used 2 ozs of average trim (included some minor bud) and a fifth of 190 proof Everclear. Decarb'd the trim/bud @ 250 degs/30 mins. Froze the 190 and the trim separately and after about 4 hrs combined the two (trim and 190). Left in the freezer 24 hrs and then strained though paper coffee filter. Recovered about 18 ozs and double boiled down to about 5 or 6 ozs. Added 5 ozs of Vegetable Glycerin and as yet have not added a flavoring.

Result? :( Either my trim wasn't high enough caliber or I have a healthy tolerance that takes a bigger kick. I tried as much as 2ml out of a pipette. Zilch, nada, nuttin'. Hmmm Using it sublingually I found the tincture to be "hot", meaning there was a real burning sensation to the tissue. What do you do about that? Oh! - duh!! - don't do it.
 
Aww man, Im so sorry it didnt come out with a good kick. I have had some batches weaker and some stronger but all had a decent kick at least. Thats why Im buying a NOVA decarboxylator, to try to get more consistency.Not sure whats up. Sounds like your doing everything the same way I do. This is where I got my info and why I do what I do. https://skunkpharmresearch.com/qwet-extraction/ Obviously Ive changed a few things like a 24 hour soak with shaking every few hours compared to there three minute wash. Im also going to fan evaporate my next batch so I dont take a chance of cooking off the good stuff by too high temperatures for a long period of time when Im boiling off the alcohol. Wish I could help more. Maybe you need to take two days off from any cannabis use. It " resets " your tolerance and will allow you to get higher from much lower doses of the good stuff.
 
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No problem here Dutchman1. I know when things are straight. I don't know for sure why mine is so weak other than inferior bud. I have a few jars of some good no.1 bud, think I'll risk one. One remaining question about the taste/heat - is this tincture not meant for sublingual use?
 
I dont usually stick it under my tongue. It burns a little. But occasionally I swirl it in my mouth and after it mixes with saliva ill hold it under my tongue. I usually put it in my coffee in the morning and occassionally just swallow 10 drops or so during the day for continued pain relief. Of the batches ive made usually 5-10 drops is plenty for me. I have a low tolerance. Stoners I know use a half to a full eye dropper full with good results. And ive only ade one batch with trim and it was the weakest batch of all but was still effective for me. A woman I provide medicine to for Fibromyalgia said it was weak for her. Generally I use grade A bud.
 
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Buz, I would recommend you use smaller amounts of bud so you dont waste it till you get it down. Only use 1/4 oz and just cover it with everclear. That way if it doesnt work out you dont lose an oz or more. Id also consider fan removal of alcohol so it doesnt have a chance to overcook the good stuff off by boiling. I have had vastly different results with different batches and Im not sure why. Im still fairly new to this. Ive only been making tinctures a year now.
 
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buz said:
Finished my second tincture, first using the Everclear/Freezer method. I used 2 ozs of average trim (included some minor bud) and a fifth of 190 proof Everclear. Decarb'd the trim/bud @ 250 degs/30 mins. Froze the 190 and the trim separately and after about 4 hrs combined the two (trim and 190). Left in the freezer 24 hrs and then strained though paper coffee filter. Recovered about 18 ozs and double boiled down to about 5 or 6 ozs. Added 5 ozs of Vegetable Glycerin and as yet have not added a flavoring.

Result? :( Either my trim wasn't high enough caliber or I have a healthy tolerance that takes a bigger kick. I tried as much as 2ml out of a pipette. Zilch, nada, nuttin'. Hmmm Using it sublingually I found the tincture to be "hot", meaning there was a real burning sensation to the tissue. What do you do about that? Oh! - duh!! - don't do it.
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250 F for 30 minutes is far less time than what I use to decarb. And 2 ml would be a small dose. That could be the problem. I've read Dutch and Russian sources saying "110 for 110" or 110 C for 110 minutes. Thats 230 F for an hour and fifty minutes. I use that formula and it works great. One gram of flower to one oz of EverClear.
Friends do 5-10 ml for the desired effect. I usually do 15-30 ml mixed with a drink.
To decarb I float a sealed aluminum herb storage canister on peanut oil. A digital thermometer in the oil confirms it temperature. I usually have the oil at 240 F and go the ful 110 minutes of roasting.

You can also evaporate all the alcohol out, and decarb the resulting oil/tar. Look at my post about Safer RSO.
It works, but the little batch I did was not as strong as the Golden Tiger from EverClear.

Good luck.
 
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