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Mr Pot

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Hi guys,

I'm new here and trying to gather some information about LST and seedling. My first doubt is that I have some almost 2 year old storaged improperly - I've putted them on a yellow M&M package, although last week I've storaged them onto a black package on my fridge. So I was wondering if the overnight soak it's a good method for germinating them or if there's another suitable method for this occasion.

Also I've read a lot about LST and topping methods, along with defoliation. And I'm having a hard time understanding when I first top and LST, is it on early vega? Some say to top and LST only after 6 nodes or so, but as I'm a new grower, I'm probably trying LST and defol. (but not topping, as a HST technique). Anyway, if someone could explain me better those techniques I would appreciate a lot.

Is it a good idea to transplant from a cup to the main bucket before the 6th node when manifolding? How should far should my bulbs be from the 6th node when I manifold? I have 6ft tall tent so what worries me is that my babies couldn't get much light if I don't lean those bulbs near them on my 600w setup..

Regards,
Mr Pot
 
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Put ur seeds in a damp paper towel then put that into a zip lock bag and keep it warm I use my DVR u could use a light and just kept damp not super wet check once a day in tell the white taproot pops out then plant if they dnt pop in 10 days they probably never will
 
St.buds said:
Put ur seeds in a damp paper towel then put that into a zip lock bag and keep it warm I use my DVR u could use a light and just kept damp not super wet check once a day in tell the white taproot pops out then plant if they dnt pop in 10 days they probably never will
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Well, I was referring myself to this topic (4th) on Nebula's guidebook: http://www.growweedeasy.com/germinat...eeds-overnight

I was wondering if I shouldn't keep them oldies overnight soaked and if they germinate I just do the standard procedure.
About lights, the objective is only to produce heat here, right? So any lamp would do? Or should I use something more specific?
 
alltatup said:
Welcome to the forum, Mr. pot, see this page for all the information on LST and defol:
http://www.growweedeasy.com/cannabis-plant-training

As for your improperly stored seeds, you will have to see whether they germinate or not. If they've been ruined due to moisture, you will know it soon enough...
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Yeah, I've read it and probably will start training my babies from the start, I'm a new grower but I'll take the challenge. I'm manifolding them and when I do that I'll upload some pictures, cuz this technique was easier to understand than others and it really explains the table of green (also combines 3 techniques). If you have a guess on what I've questioned about manifolding, le'me know!
 
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U can soak seed for up to a week if needed as for improper storage I kept some in sox drawer wrapped in a celphane wrapper from a cig. Pack for a year worked out well. It's the humidity and mold that can hurt them. As for lst and topping you can top after the 3th node or any time after that if plant is strong enough to take it don't try to much at one time or you can stunt it growth. Keeping it green
 
Ok, maybe I didn't understand which question you wanted answered: what is it exactly that you're asking about LST? When to start? 6 nodes?
 
alltatup
I was wondering how far I keep my lamps from seedling to transplantion for a main compartment and if it won't be a lot stress for my girls to transplantante and manifold them right away. Should I only go for the looks healthy method?
 
MrPot, I definitely wouldn't transplant and then manifold. If you go back and re-read the article on manifolding, you will see that it says only do it when a plant is very healthy and growing vigorously. You have to use some common sense here, because you know that transplanting can cause some shock and stress, as can manifolding... Don't give your girls a nervous breakdown!!

Here's another article on distance of grow lights:
http://www.growweedeasy.com/how-far-grow-lights
 
Okay, that's an important info. I was wondering also how I should treat the plants when I manifold them when it comes to nutrients. I'm using GH trio, should I repeat doses of early vega when they're chopped down?

Sorry about the number of questions, there are some things that the tutorial doesn't cover.
I know some are common sense but I have to be sure..
 
You're saying to soak them till they sprout and then paper towel aight? Something like if it don't sprout while it's soaked for a week, it won't sprout at all?
 
Manifolding isn't going to affect your feeding schedule. Whatever your instructions are, whatever week you're in, stick to that. And don't say "chopped down": you will only be giving them a little nip and tuck!!!
 
Sorry bout the bad english, I'm not from the US.. I read about manifolding and how it usually delay the vega process in weeks. I was going to follow a chart of quantities forthe GH trio that Nebula recommended on this tutorial http://www.growweedeasy.com/general-hydroponics-flora-trio-guide

If I follow those charts when manifolding I'll probably make a mistake for my NPK choice when veg and transitioning. What should I do? Double the weeks as it probably take more than 4 weeks to set it to bloom?
Hope u understand my question..

Also, if I start them on a red cup and transplant in early vega to a 6-7 gallon compartment then manifold, do u really think it's too stressful for the plants?
 
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Your English is fine, Mr Pot!! I was just kidding about the "chopping"!! I am a new grower myself, so I am really not sure how to answer your questions. But my understanding is that you follow a scheule of feeding throughout vegetation, no matter how many weeks you are allowing your plants to stay in the veg. stage. I would never "double up" on nutrients!!!! It won't make your plants grow faster, it will only give them too much nutrient and probably cause nute burn. If you are going to manifold your plants, as already stated, make sure that they are strong and healthy when you start, and they will bounce back quickly from the cutting.

As I wrote before, leave time between transplanting and cutting.
 
Aight, I got that and won't double up the quantities, I know what's overfeeding a plant.

Most growers say that in order to train ur plant for a more desirable yield your plants have to veg for a longer time and that leads to a conflict with the charts I've posted here. Which week of nutrients and it's quantities should I "copy" and make the following week the same as this one, u know? I'm not talking about overfeeding, I'm talking about prolonging vega and how to deal with a chart that says for you to stop this stage at week 3 when I'll probably start to bloom in week 6. Nutrients quantities on both phases are different and I'm quite sure that it's a mistake to just follow the chart when it comes to that.


I hope now you understand it hahaha
 
My understanding is that you arrive at full strength vegetation nutrient dose, and if you are prolonging your veg. stage beyond the 5th week, for example, continue feeding that same amount for as long as you are in veg.
 
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