LabradorLids
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I have trouble being succinct, so feel free to skip this thread completely. I'll do my best not to ramble, but won't blame those that don't read this one. 
My first grow
I've been saving every bag seed I've found for over a decade. Had an especially seedy batch a couple years ago that was littered with them, so when quarantine hit I decided I'd do a seat of my pants experiment and maybe learn a few things along the way. Took a handful and threw them in some miracle grow I had laying around, then put the CFL daylight bulb I bought for painting miniatures (Nerd!) over them. Eventually culled all but one, and got this for flowering : https://www.amazon.com/CANAGROW-Spe...keywords=33w+grow+light&qid=1591044169&sr=8-4
She didn't yield much, but the knowledge gained was definitely worth it.
I've been reading tons since then and I think I'm finally ready for a more serious attempt. I was hoping just one of you might not mind hearing my plans/checking my shopping list and letting me know what you might do in my situation.
What I already have
What I had and have slowly been piecemealing together for my next attempt.
Mars Hydro TS600
timer
cheap Honeywell temp/RH monitor
9" Honeywell fan
6" no name USB fan
2 bags of FFOF
bag of perlite
5 three gallon fabric pots
Ball mason jars
loupe
My shopping list
tent
fan/carbon filter
some sort of intake filter
nutrients
cal/mag
risers/saucers
pH/PPM meter
pH up/down kit
garden ties
surge protector/power cord
smoke detector
seeds
Why I'm doing this
Sure, I'd love to grow copious amounts of exotic buds, but more than anything this is cathartic for me. I only say this because I've probably spent too much time reading Reddit while doing my research.
Questions about specific shopping list items
Nutrients : I was leaning towards the FF trio at first, but really like the idea of Nectar for the Gods One Shot because it lessens the chance I'll be screwing it up. Is there any huge downside to this? I've read some plants can be a bit sensitive when it comes to time released nutes.
Intake filter : I've seen people cut AC, charcoal, or hammock filters, and even use truck cold air intake cones. Honestly would just like to hear what you use if you made it this far, haha.
My biggest concern
Pests : My first grow was all in my closet, and I had zero problems. This time I'll be more than likely putting the tent in the basement, which definitely has more creepy crawlies. Nothing insane, but it still makes me shiver thinking about the spiders and silverfish and such that I have seen down there. :fear: I'd really prefer to not have to use something like neem oil if I can avoid it, however pests seems fairly common, especially in basements/cellars. Any special precautions besides a clean area, negative pressure, and maybe putting the tent on a pallet?
My original vs current plans
Originally I planned on getting just a 32" x 32" tent and a 4" AC Infinity fan and filter. Was going to put a Barney's Farm auto into one or two of the 3 gallon pots with FFOF and perlite. Planned on using the bulb from my first grow as supplemental light. I managed to get the TS600 for a really good sale price last November and have been thinking of grabbing another, which would be a total of 200W for slightly less than the price of a TS1000. I was worried about temperatures if I did this, both because I've read that Mars Hydro lights tend to get hot and the fact that the TS600 has no driver that could be moved outside the tent. They don't have dimmer switches or daisy chains, either. That was going to be one of the things I was going to ask about when I first made this account, but....
Now, I'm not saying I do or don't live in NY state, where cannabis possession and cultivation are illegal. That state is finalizing legislation to legalize it and sign it as early as next week, though. So...you may or may not see my dilemma. :laugh: Which brings me to...
My barrage of random questions
Would you upgrade to a 24" x 48" tent, grab another TS600 (or other simlar light) and bag of FFOF (or maybe happy frog this time? I've read ocean forest can be tough on seedlings) for a third plant? Two bags for four? I could potentially go up to a 48" x 48", although I'm trying to keep my budget fairly modest for this grow.
I have read about negative pressure, but I'll admit it's still over my head. From what I understand a 4" AC Infinity fan should be big enough for a 2' x 4' or even a 4' x 4'. Does that sound right?
I just have a bunch of fan questions in general : Does it run constantly? How dirty does it get in veg without the filter? Are the automatic ones with the temp/humidity controller worth the extra cost?
If you were me and wanted to get the 24" x 48" now and then add a 32" x 32" later as a veg tent, would you buy a 6" fan now in anticipation? Another 4" in the future as an intake? I'm still leaning towards some autos with reputable genetics for a grow or two, but I do like the idea of eventually popping some of the bag seed I have in future runs. The idea of searching for some mother plants in a bunch of unknown strains is pretty exciting.
Conclusion
Yeah, this was me trying to be succinct...I made a post on Reddit last year when growing my first girl, and immediately regretted it, so this was about a year's worth of thoughts I had to get out lol. If you made it this far, I'm impressed. If you read any of it at all, I appreciate it. Any suggestions at all would be really helpful. Thanks.
My first grow
I've been saving every bag seed I've found for over a decade. Had an especially seedy batch a couple years ago that was littered with them, so when quarantine hit I decided I'd do a seat of my pants experiment and maybe learn a few things along the way. Took a handful and threw them in some miracle grow I had laying around, then put the CFL daylight bulb I bought for painting miniatures (Nerd!) over them. Eventually culled all but one, and got this for flowering : https://www.amazon.com/CANAGROW-Spe...keywords=33w+grow+light&qid=1591044169&sr=8-4
She didn't yield much, but the knowledge gained was definitely worth it.
I've been reading tons since then and I think I'm finally ready for a more serious attempt. I was hoping just one of you might not mind hearing my plans/checking my shopping list and letting me know what you might do in my situation.
What I already have
What I had and have slowly been piecemealing together for my next attempt.
Mars Hydro TS600
timer
cheap Honeywell temp/RH monitor
9" Honeywell fan
6" no name USB fan
2 bags of FFOF
bag of perlite
5 three gallon fabric pots
Ball mason jars
loupe
My shopping list
tent
fan/carbon filter
some sort of intake filter
nutrients
cal/mag
risers/saucers
pH/PPM meter
pH up/down kit
garden ties
surge protector/power cord
smoke detector
seeds
Why I'm doing this
Sure, I'd love to grow copious amounts of exotic buds, but more than anything this is cathartic for me. I only say this because I've probably spent too much time reading Reddit while doing my research.
Questions about specific shopping list items
Nutrients : I was leaning towards the FF trio at first, but really like the idea of Nectar for the Gods One Shot because it lessens the chance I'll be screwing it up. Is there any huge downside to this? I've read some plants can be a bit sensitive when it comes to time released nutes.
Intake filter : I've seen people cut AC, charcoal, or hammock filters, and even use truck cold air intake cones. Honestly would just like to hear what you use if you made it this far, haha.
My biggest concern
Pests : My first grow was all in my closet, and I had zero problems. This time I'll be more than likely putting the tent in the basement, which definitely has more creepy crawlies. Nothing insane, but it still makes me shiver thinking about the spiders and silverfish and such that I have seen down there. :fear: I'd really prefer to not have to use something like neem oil if I can avoid it, however pests seems fairly common, especially in basements/cellars. Any special precautions besides a clean area, negative pressure, and maybe putting the tent on a pallet?
My original vs current plans
Originally I planned on getting just a 32" x 32" tent and a 4" AC Infinity fan and filter. Was going to put a Barney's Farm auto into one or two of the 3 gallon pots with FFOF and perlite. Planned on using the bulb from my first grow as supplemental light. I managed to get the TS600 for a really good sale price last November and have been thinking of grabbing another, which would be a total of 200W for slightly less than the price of a TS1000. I was worried about temperatures if I did this, both because I've read that Mars Hydro lights tend to get hot and the fact that the TS600 has no driver that could be moved outside the tent. They don't have dimmer switches or daisy chains, either. That was going to be one of the things I was going to ask about when I first made this account, but....
Now, I'm not saying I do or don't live in NY state, where cannabis possession and cultivation are illegal. That state is finalizing legislation to legalize it and sign it as early as next week, though. So...you may or may not see my dilemma. :laugh: Which brings me to...
My barrage of random questions
Would you upgrade to a 24" x 48" tent, grab another TS600 (or other simlar light) and bag of FFOF (or maybe happy frog this time? I've read ocean forest can be tough on seedlings) for a third plant? Two bags for four? I could potentially go up to a 48" x 48", although I'm trying to keep my budget fairly modest for this grow.
I have read about negative pressure, but I'll admit it's still over my head. From what I understand a 4" AC Infinity fan should be big enough for a 2' x 4' or even a 4' x 4'. Does that sound right?
I just have a bunch of fan questions in general : Does it run constantly? How dirty does it get in veg without the filter? Are the automatic ones with the temp/humidity controller worth the extra cost?
If you were me and wanted to get the 24" x 48" now and then add a 32" x 32" later as a veg tent, would you buy a 6" fan now in anticipation? Another 4" in the future as an intake? I'm still leaning towards some autos with reputable genetics for a grow or two, but I do like the idea of eventually popping some of the bag seed I have in future runs. The idea of searching for some mother plants in a bunch of unknown strains is pretty exciting.
Conclusion
Yeah, this was me trying to be succinct...I made a post on Reddit last year when growing my first girl, and immediately regretted it, so this was about a year's worth of thoughts I had to get out lol. If you made it this far, I'm impressed. If you read any of it at all, I appreciate it. Any suggestions at all would be really helpful. Thanks.
don't make it complicated on yourself. I bet Cow Moo is that how you spell it? The gov. of NY will just about pass anything to gain the popular vote.
