Thanks, yes they are I finally beat my nemesis. Overwatering, not that I didn't let them dry out. Too much at once especially at the seedling stage. I prefer to train them above the net rather than below creating a new canopy and then clearing out below the net. Training in one form or another is a must for LED lamps with the limited depth they have. Might be different with a 600-800w, I just use a 100w LED and do fine. Glad you have one under the belt, now you can improve your next grow with the knowledge you have gained.