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HELP! Leaves don't really match pictures

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In4alook2

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Gorilla glue #4 autos growing in a mixture of black kow leaf pro organic compost and coco are looking sick. They don't quite match any of the pictures in the self help section so I was wondering if anyone had an idea what was wrong with them. Any help appreciated.
 

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They are definitely stunted. What is the pH of the water you give them? If they are autos I suggest trashing them and trying again. They will do nothing.
 
Needs perlite and not sure about compost used. I grow in coco and perlite and use GH flora trio with cal mag and have no issues. Your plant definitely is having trouble breathing with no perlite to facilitate drainage. Also what is your ph? Did you buffer coco before planting? Agree that if auto's that you should start over. Preferably with photo's so you can learn how to grow. Auto's require near perfect growing conditions or else they get severely stunted and have no time to correct any issues.
 
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They are very young plants, not stunted. Coco is mixed into the dirt it was bought pre washed and buffered 3 bricks to three quarters of a bag of black kow and half a bag of compost. I'm not in a position to just chuck them. I can feed them whatever they need as if growing in hydroponics if needed. I haven't check run off ph that I'll do this afternoon. I watered them at 6.0 Saturday they were dry last night. The soil is light enough and draining well due to the combination of coco and organic compost. I have been giving them general hydroponic flora trio nutrition with cal mag at seedling strength until last watering where I bumped it up to mild veg growth. They were transplanted about a week and a half ago or so, I forgot to put it down on the calendar. Popped about a week before that I think. I'm going to try dropping the ph of the water a few points this time and check run off. I gotta make it work I can't throw out like 50$ worth of seeds.
 
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I bet it's that poor soil you got an it's too hot a mix plus no airflow without perilite. They drown, soil compacts an yellowing. Black cow is high nitrogene cow poo soil from a feed lot. Coco got nothing in it but fluff until it's wet an becomes compacted. We are telling you that because of experience we've had. Anything more you do now won't recover in my view the damage is done , yes they are stunted.
 
Thanks for the help but I think I got it figured out now. I just watered them. I had accidentally dropped the water with nutrients to 4.0 so instead of changing it to what I was going to try 5.7 I watered 1 plant and the run off was still 7.0. I went ahead and watered the other 2 with the same and the next time I'll drop it a bit more. With watering it at 6.0 before the ph must have been way too high and they have lock out. Thanks again for the help. And a shout out to tersky for making me think about my ph.
 
I never test runoff in fabric pots as it is usually inaccurate as the fabric soaks up some of the salts making runoff ph different than actual root zone. I still say your problem is mainly with medium as no perlite makes it hard for plant to breathe and compost used. Ph might be an issue because of the compost but coco is neutral and will take on ph of nutes poured in. I grown in coco/ perlite and use GH flora trio for nutes at 6.0 and dont have issues.

The problem with autos is by the time you notice an issue, the damage is already done since it doesnt have time to correct any issues.
 
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