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Leaf curls up from one side and gets wrinkled with no discoloration

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hothouse

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Hey gang, I have a nice 4 plant indoor grow happening. It's the end of the 2nd month of veg. I have one plant with an interesting problem that I can not find any help on so I'm submitting it to you kind folks. No other plant shows this symptom in the grow. All the plants are the same strain and come from the same grow, all fed and watered exactly the same as well. All the plants including the problem child are vegging very well, and no bug problems except for a couple white flies that I have been dealing with. I figured there maybe a DNA problem with the seed. The leaf seems to curl up from one side with no discoloration and they get a little wrinkled as well. I thought it might be a boron problem but everything is exactly the same in the grow and no other plant displays a problem. There is one note, it seems to be producing more colas then the other plants. It really seems to be growing well other then this problem.

Take a gander and see if anyone has seen this problem before. Remember everything else is extremely healthy about the plants and all the standards are where they should be ( PH, Humidity, air circulation, feed & water. )

Any feed is appreciated....

Hothouse~
 

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Since it was young and it has not effected the other plants. If there was root problems I think slower grow and other symptoms might have happened by now. I think it maybe an insect as well. I can't find anything even with a magnifying glass. The hunt goes on...
 
Overall the damage doesn't seem that severe and it's growth appears to be on par with her sisters. I think the extra nodes may be a result of the stress of whatever mystery illness has befallen her. What strain/bank is it?
 
Is it happening most to the top of the plant, and parts of the plant that are exposed to light/air? Or is it happening evenly all over the plant?

It's hard to say in the light form the LEDs, but those leaves do look a little dark like you might possibly have a nitrogen toxicity (too much nitrogen). I'm not sure that would cause the leaf wrinkling by itself, but I could see it possibly contributing.

Here's an example of a Nitrogen toxic leaf in regular light to compare:

 
It's happening throughout the plant and now it's starting to show up on one of the other plants. I'm going with straight water for the next couple weeks to flush any excess nutrients. Yesterday I hit all the plants with some Capitan Jacks deadbug brew we'll see if anything changes but for now the sick plant is showing more disintegration then recovery.

Fingers crossed.

Thanks for the input...
 
Might be a long shot, but I just noticed the leaves seem shiny (might just be the light). Could it be broad mites? It would make sense you couldn't see them because they mostly live inside the plant.
 
Ok, so I have never had to deal with broad mites so I just did some research. Now I have something else to add to my paranoid nightmares. Look at this ugly oooooooooooohhhhh.
The article this comes from was written by Sirius J. is that our Sirius? link to the article is below


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What substrate are these being grown in, and do you ever foliar feed or mist?
I saw something similar on a plant which was under-watered, and a little wilted. It had some standing water on a few leaves which went on to perk up and continue growing, but their defects stretched as they grew. The looked a bit twisted, curled and generally raggedy-ass. But they seemed to photosynthesise just fine. They all grew-out during the vegetative stage.

If there has been serious progression in three days, it's probably something else. Do you have updated pictures, hothouse?
 
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OK check this out, this gooey like substance which I will call a fungus/mold of some sort took place in a two day period. The humidity in the grow room got out of whack because we had a week of over a 100 degree temps which effected the grow room. the plants have always have three days between waterings. the soil is a little most and may have contributed. This is on the sick from my original post, it has not shown up on the other three plants. So it leads me to believe that the leaf problem maybe a root infection. I may transplant into new soil. Take a gander
 

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Update on the broad mite idea. Thank you for the link Mañ'O'Green, from what I've read I don't think it is broad mites, this new fungus makes me think there is a soil/ root issue. I will say I haven't found any info on the leaf issue or this fungus so this is an interesting plight and something that doesn't appear to be very common.
 
Wow! I've never seen anything like that!

At first glace, it looks like the work of a European corn borer; they burrow into your stem and leave (what I assume is) their poop on the outside.

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The stuff on your stem looks different so I think you might be dealing with a different problem. Ugh...the pics in this thread make me feel like something crawling on my skin!
 
Wow. That's some nasty looking stuff.... You guys are all doing a wonderful job of grossing me out...

Check out the link I attached. It looks identical to the mold/fungus you have growing there. It also may be a slime mold but they're typically orange/yellow in color. At any rate, molds and fungus love warm, humid environments. Might be time to get a dehumidifier or at least get a fan to blow on the media constantly to keep it dry.

Good luck hothouse, keep us posted.
 
That looks like exactly it! Wow, what a great find!

I had a house plant in soil once that grew a bunch of orange fungus similar to this, and that was also from just overall too much moisture at the roots.
 
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