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UK-Jakey

UK-Jakey

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I have been given some haze X trainwreck seeds, hazewreck, hazy train, trainwreck haze. I’d like to know her flowering time before I start them can anybody help? Google and the internet are not very useful for this strain I thought maybe some of you guys might of come across these before
 
I haven’t grown any of those but I do know hazes are long flowering hard to grow strains. At least originally. So I wouldn’t count on fast flowering. I would contemplate 12 weeks at least
 
Thank you Chefbjy, didn’t want to under run them and miss full development. Ibudtender says 9-11weeks so will take that as a guideline and check the trichomes with magnifier. I thought it might be a little longer with it being haze
 
Consider growing in 11/13 schedule or even 10/14 in the final weeks. It helps to speed up flowering in hazes and sativas
 
I've read that dropping the "lights on" time even by one hour, will significantly drop the thc percentage. But it was just regurgitated from the internet, but still something to look into before trying it so you can decide for yourself.
 
Waltermelon
That disagrees with what I understand about light and THC production. Dropping light by an hour could adversely effect yield (due to less energy), but should have no negative impact and could have positive impact on cannabinoid potency. THC and light have a love hate relationship. The plant needs light to be able to produce THC, but it appears that it produces THC to protect itself from the light. Plants produce THC whether the lights are on or not (using stored energy when they are not). When the lights are on a portion of the THC is burned off.
The sacrifice that needs to be considered here is harvest size. If you apply less energy you will get a smaller yield.
 
I'm going to poke around the interwebs to see if I can find where I read my tidbit about potency. If I remember correctly it was from a reputable site, but obviously not a scientific study.
 
http://www.weedfarmer.com/cannabis/botany_guide.php it's in the very ending of this with a cite to the study. It doesn't mention an hour drop in the lights on period and specifically mentioned a 50% drop in the production with a 10 hours on schedule. So my guess it's a crap shoot losing an hour. You could have a 25% drop or a 0% drop. But this is a LOT of great information if you can wrap your head around it. So grab a blunt and enjoy 😁
 
Waltermelon
That is an interesting source, thanks for sharing. I will look up the original cited study when I have a chance. I want to know more about the parameters they used and what exactly they are reporting there.
 
It's a great read that may take a few days to make it through and absorb. But you'll come out with an incredible amount of knowledge. Some if the may not be the most scientific, but it may be the best we have on some of the subjects until the university of Mississippi gets to it. They're doing so much right now to help with cultivation, but being the only government approved actual scientific op in the US, they can only do so much.
 
Hey thanks for the read it was interesting. Some good things in there I agreed with but also some unexplored claims worth looking into as well. Food for thought is always good.
My only argument is that the cite is from a 1978 study and the claim itself does not hold much water.
"Research has shown (Valle et al. 1978) that twice as much THC is produced under a 12-hour photoperiod than under a 10-hour photoperiod. "
Personally, I find that rather silly. Lots of people grow dank weed with less than 12hrs of light. In 1978 it was a difference of going from 3% to 6% THC lol!
 
Trainwreck is awesome I just began week 4 of flowering with this lady. She's from clone. That's from today
It takes me 6 -7 weeks to finish but I could go 8 depending on the circumstance.

It's such a beautiful high that it's up to the grower. It's totally ready to smoke at week 6 and I personally enjoy cutting her down a little bit on the early side. It's already a racy, day time work high so I like to magnify those effects. Super Speedy! 50 Days is good for that and going longer can sometimes nullify the true Trainwreck buzz. Plus mine likes to grow bananas on the tops of the big colas after week 7.
-genetics will play a major role, this particular strain that I have may be completely different than yours so perhaps my main point is that it might not take as long as advertised if you are wanting that uppity daytime high. It's unique to get baked and still get your to-do list done!
 

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KingKush just because the science is old doesn't disprove it. That's the beauty of science. As facts change so does "truth". The earth was believed to be round in the 15th century, just because it's the 21st century doesn't mean it's changed, we just haven't been able to prove otherwise.
 
I agree KingKush I am going to look for that study, because it is a specious claim.
If you read more in that article, it is very dated and although objective reality does not change our scientific understanding of (and ability to accurately measure) it certainly has. It may be a solid controlled variable experiment, but if this research had been done and those findings were reliable across strains then this would be better known than it is. Furthermore, it is very difficult to imagine the biological process that would be responsible for it. I will let you know what I find in the original study.
 
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