UndergroundFarmer
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You're right about the smell. I'm going to post its photo from today down below here. It is at least very frosty for such small buddage.
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UndergroundFarmer
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Thanks! I got a little lazy and started buying loose prewashed coco instead of the blocks and I'm getting good results. I've got a compost tea I was given as a promo I'm going to break out around fifth week of flower for the photos. It was useless to me when I only did hydro!
UndergroundFarmer
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Finally! I had to reboot the PC to get iCloud to get in line. Left is of course what Dark Devil ought to look like. Middle is my DD, Right is a close-up of a bud. Mine is puny but frosty.
dakogotin
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Most of my seeds to grow bought from here https://medicalmarijuanaseedscenter.com/ so far so good.
UndergroundFarmer
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Here's the top of the coco Blueberry is growing in.
The roots grow all the way to the surface, something I've never seen before in coco!
The roots grow all the way to the surface, something I've never seen before in coco!
UndergroundFarmer
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Week 5 in flower is starting for these three! Left to right they are Tangie, Blueberry and Kosher Kush.
I'm noticing earlier frost on the buds on these three. The upper buds already have sugar on the sugar leaves! KK doesn't smell much yet. Either that or I can't tell standing too close to Tangie. I put my nose near a Tangie bud and it smelled just like freshly peeled orange rind. Even the Blueberry now smells just like blueberries. If I was paying someone to grow this stuff for me, I wouldn't complain.
Dark Devil and CBDV 1:1 got the chop this morning. Northern Lights needs (at least) another week. She got her last real feeding this morning and will get only water until time to come down. She is back in this tent until she is done then I will move the PPD, GSC and Lavender over from the Project Murcott tent to finish flowering here - away from Tangie pollen.
I'd like to know if growing this way works with more straightforward chemical nutes like GH trio. The ones I use (Aurora Soul Infinity, Bloom, Big Swell & PeaK for this feeding) aren't organic per se but they are organic-compatible. I have enough of the basic three (Infinity, Bloom, Grow) to last me until well into next year because I hoarded them last year when I thought the supply was going dry. I still can't find a steady source locally because of Hydrofarm's distribution issues.
The next three incoming plants after the three lined up in Murcott will be a return to manifolding. Since these are mostly feminized one-shots, I'd like to maximize yield and maybe get out of having to do so much defoliation. Here's Super Lemon Haze at her feeding today:
I'm noticing earlier frost on the buds on these three. The upper buds already have sugar on the sugar leaves! KK doesn't smell much yet. Either that or I can't tell standing too close to Tangie. I put my nose near a Tangie bud and it smelled just like freshly peeled orange rind. Even the Blueberry now smells just like blueberries. If I was paying someone to grow this stuff for me, I wouldn't complain.
Dark Devil and CBDV 1:1 got the chop this morning. Northern Lights needs (at least) another week. She got her last real feeding this morning and will get only water until time to come down. She is back in this tent until she is done then I will move the PPD, GSC and Lavender over from the Project Murcott tent to finish flowering here - away from Tangie pollen.
I'd like to know if growing this way works with more straightforward chemical nutes like GH trio. The ones I use (Aurora Soul Infinity, Bloom, Big Swell & PeaK for this feeding) aren't organic per se but they are organic-compatible. I have enough of the basic three (Infinity, Bloom, Grow) to last me until well into next year because I hoarded them last year when I thought the supply was going dry. I still can't find a steady source locally because of Hydrofarm's distribution issues.
The next three incoming plants after the three lined up in Murcott will be a return to manifolding. Since these are mostly feminized one-shots, I'd like to maximize yield and maybe get out of having to do so much defoliation. Here's Super Lemon Haze at her feeding today:
UndergroundFarmer
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We had a power outage from Friday afternoon to Saturday evening, so all my plants except two spent a day in the sun!
Of course, this little snot got knocked off before I brought this Blueberry back inside. This leafhopper was so stoned that I had to flick it off the sugar leaf.
Kosher Kush in natural light!
Tangie smelling up the entire backyard.
Frosty Blueberry.
I may have to drag them outdoors for bud porn shoots from now on! I can't get them to look this good inside.
These three got their five week's top dressing of worm castings to get them through the final weeks. I upped the EC for the feed from 1.2 to 1.6 because they were looking a bit hungry. They were also quite thirsty today after their sun worship even with a watering that morning before. They are now sharing cramped space with a PPD, GSC & Lavender from another tent to keep them away from unwanted pollination. NL auto got the chop and should be some nice smoke in a few weeks.
Before and after moving in the new guys. Tangie is left front, KK is left rear, BB is right rear. PPD is center rear, Lavender is center front , GSC is right front.
The three new ones may get to go back to the Murcott tent to finish after the males are gone. There are at least two and possibly five boys now so there will be some space coming up.
Of course, this little snot got knocked off before I brought this Blueberry back inside. This leafhopper was so stoned that I had to flick it off the sugar leaf.
Kosher Kush in natural light!
Tangie smelling up the entire backyard.
Frosty Blueberry.
I may have to drag them outdoors for bud porn shoots from now on! I can't get them to look this good inside.
These three got their five week's top dressing of worm castings to get them through the final weeks. I upped the EC for the feed from 1.2 to 1.6 because they were looking a bit hungry. They were also quite thirsty today after their sun worship even with a watering that morning before. They are now sharing cramped space with a PPD, GSC & Lavender from another tent to keep them away from unwanted pollination. NL auto got the chop and should be some nice smoke in a few weeks.
Before and after moving in the new guys. Tangie is left front, KK is left rear, BB is right rear. PPD is center rear, Lavender is center front , GSC is right front.
The three new ones may get to go back to the Murcott tent to finish after the males are gone. There are at least two and possibly five boys now so there will be some space coming up.
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UndergroundFarmer
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We are getting closer to chop. It's maybe only a week for Blueberry but likely everybody will need at least two more.
Here's the Kosher Kush, the Blueberry and Tangie by themselves.
And with the rest - PPD, GSC and Lavender.
I've been trying to keep an eye on them for critters after their day out. I've caught a leafhopper but haven't seen anything other than fungus gnats. I'm seeing some stippling on some of the leaves like thrips came in but I haven't caught them yet. The smell inside here is terrific. I just wish the humidity would go away.
Here's the Kosher Kush, the Blueberry and Tangie by themselves.
And with the rest - PPD, GSC and Lavender.
I've been trying to keep an eye on them for critters after their day out. I've caught a leafhopper but haven't seen anything other than fungus gnats. I'm seeing some stippling on some of the leaves like thrips came in but I haven't caught them yet. The smell inside here is terrific. I just wish the humidity would go away.
UndergroundFarmer
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The humidity broke and it's a good thing because I had to spray down a lot of the grow and work space in the basement because I (achoo) took down the male Tangies today. I did dab some Tangie pollen on a few branches of my GSC for some Tropicanna Cookies. The Blueberry is on its last week and is outstinking everything else right now. The other two late-flowering girls are about two weeks out and got their final feed today. Here's pics because I somehow remembered to:
Kosher Kush, Blueberry, Tangie in back. PPD, GSC, and Lavender up front.
Kosher Kush, Blueberry, Tangie
Two more weeks is a hard thing to wait for when you've got these trying to push the older ones out:
I had to mist these guys and everything else that wasn't in late flower with Capt. Jack's after I caught a few thrip larvae yesterday. I also jarred up that NL auto. I got three mason jars of nice-smelling bud - smoke report eventually.
Kosher Kush, Blueberry, Tangie in back. PPD, GSC, and Lavender up front.
Kosher Kush, Blueberry, Tangie
Two more weeks is a hard thing to wait for when you've got these trying to push the older ones out:
I had to mist these guys and everything else that wasn't in late flower with Capt. Jack's after I caught a few thrip larvae yesterday. I also jarred up that NL auto. I got three mason jars of nice-smelling bud - smoke report eventually.
Dannyboy58
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I got fed up with my hydro setup and transplanted my youngest Afghan auto just as it was beginning to flower. I put it in coast of maine, stonington blend and a little extra perlite and put it outside. It stretched to almost 4' and is loaded with big buds. I've done nothing else to it except water it and gave it a little calmag two weeks ago when some leaves started to yellow. Very happy with the results so far of this low maintenance approach. I'll never grow hydro again and likely won't do much indoor growing from now on.
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UndergroundFarmer
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Very nice! I love to see them falling over because of their own weight. I like your idea of keeping grows outdoors except for the bugs. I just killed another leafhopper this afternoon. The little snot had been living in that tent for about two weeks now. The plants all responded to the real sun very very well, though.
I'm still debating myself about whether or not to rebuild the hydro setup. I might just do it and grow spinach or something like that. It's great for growing a whole bunch of the same plant, especially if vegetative growth is all you give a damn about. I'm getting super spoiled on being able to shuffle plants between tents and having access to the whole plant for the whole grow. I'm using less electricity not running air and water pumps too. I think the real tipping point is the smell and taste from coco and organics. I pulled out a few dead leaves off Blueberry, grazed a bud and now my hands reeks. I'm not really mad about that either. The fact that the recent 48 hour power outage this summer would have killed my entire garden if it were still in hydro isn't lost on me either.
I'm still debating myself about whether or not to rebuild the hydro setup. I might just do it and grow spinach or something like that. It's great for growing a whole bunch of the same plant, especially if vegetative growth is all you give a damn about. I'm getting super spoiled on being able to shuffle plants between tents and having access to the whole plant for the whole grow. I'm using less electricity not running air and water pumps too. I think the real tipping point is the smell and taste from coco and organics. I pulled out a few dead leaves off Blueberry, grazed a bud and now my hands reeks. I'm not really mad about that either. The fact that the recent 48 hour power outage this summer would have killed my entire garden if it were still in hydro isn't lost on me either.
Dannyboy58
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UndergroundFarmer I haven't had any issues with bugs, YET, but I'm sure I've just been lucky. My biggest concern was deer but I found a spot where the scent of my dogs is probably strong enough to keep them away.
I just don't want to spend so much time babysitting a hydro setup. I'm just retiring and don't want to be tied to that anchor. If it's too high maintenance I'll just end up being a consumer again.
I just don't want to spend so much time babysitting a hydro setup. I'm just retiring and don't want to be tied to that anchor. If it's too high maintenance I'll just end up being a consumer again.
UndergroundFarmer
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Blueberry got a few more days to get ripe. She may even get an extra week yet. No biggie, I've got two weeks off to play. Kosher Kush and Tangie are easily needing another week. This tent just reeks right now from the three in late flower. The smaller three aren't stretching much and none will likely get over three feet tall but they are all indica-dominant, so no surprise. Lavender seems to be a bit behind in flower making while PPD is making big hairy tops and GSC is making compact colas.
I've noticed some of the flowering plants showing deficiencies - especially the ones making seed. I also noticed that Blueberry didn't really fill out its colas as much as I hoped she would. I think I will have to go to biweekly feedings for any plants that is showing bud until the bottle nutes are gone. I do like the way the nearly finished ones are shutting down. I expect the smoke from Blueberry to be some of the mildest yet with the way she is flushing. (I'm only watering to keep moist and allowing her to use up what nutrients she can find, not drenching the coco.)
Anyway, here's the pics:
Back row is KK, BB, Tangie. Front row is PPD, GSC, Lavender. I tied Tangie's support stick to a tent post for better posture after taking this.
Wedding Cake, Peyote Z--z, Super Lemon Haze (back)
Pineapple Express, Alien Technology, Purple Kush (front) waiting their turn.
Super Lemon Haze was growing a bit unevenly with a short stem. Here she is after some LST to even it out.
I broke down and got a whiteboard to keep track of plants and dates a bit better.
Each box is a tent in its relative position in the grow room. I think I could make better use of the space though. I can't believe these two seed projects have been going on since May.
I've noticed some of the flowering plants showing deficiencies - especially the ones making seed. I also noticed that Blueberry didn't really fill out its colas as much as I hoped she would. I think I will have to go to biweekly feedings for any plants that is showing bud until the bottle nutes are gone. I do like the way the nearly finished ones are shutting down. I expect the smoke from Blueberry to be some of the mildest yet with the way she is flushing. (I'm only watering to keep moist and allowing her to use up what nutrients she can find, not drenching the coco.)
Anyway, here's the pics:
Back row is KK, BB, Tangie. Front row is PPD, GSC, Lavender. I tied Tangie's support stick to a tent post for better posture after taking this.
Wedding Cake, Peyote Z--z, Super Lemon Haze (back)
Pineapple Express, Alien Technology, Purple Kush (front) waiting their turn.
Super Lemon Haze was growing a bit unevenly with a short stem. Here she is after some LST to even it out.
I broke down and got a whiteboard to keep track of plants and dates a bit better.
Each box is a tent in its relative position in the grow room. I think I could make better use of the space though. I can't believe these two seed projects have been going on since May.
GroBuddy
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I use fox farms happy frog to start seeds in, once they are ready to transplant photos go from starter pots to 2 gallons bottom half ocean forest top half happy frog since happy frog contains mycorrhizae I also sprinkle the roots with mycorrhizae. Normally my photos veg for 2 to 2 1/2 months depending on when I start them and how long my current flower tent takes. Around a month to 5 weeks in the 2gallons I'll top with 444 all purpose and worm castings. Normally their ready to go to the flower tent same time their ready to be transplanted into their final pot. I use 5 and 7 gallons. Final pot is full ocean forest. 4 to 5 weeks into flower I'll top dress with half recommended 444 and full serving of 394 with worm castings. Around week 8 or 9 I'll do 394 with worm castings. Most of my flowers last over 12 weeks so I take into consideration how much food they actually need to finish on that last feeding I may only do half servings just strain dependent and flower time. My autos get one feeding around week 5 or 6. I don't ph water my tap is 9.3 I use a boogie blue filter on my garden hose that's the water I use. Used to use r/o water I bought an expensive under the sink filter system, now I use the garden hose. You'll want to make sure you have dolomite lime as it's a calmag nutrient but also raises soil ph, if you ph organic grows your ph will be low in the 5's. You'll want gypsum gypsum is a calcium nutrient but doesn't effect soil ph. Epsom salt is a magnesium nute. I also have a bunch of others bat guano, seabird guano, alfalfa meal, kelp meal, blood meal bone meal, fish meal molasses. Just a variety of others. 1 incase I run deficient brewing a tea with foliar feedings can save a plant before it gets bad waiting on the new top dress feed to start breaking down.
What I have going on rn in the amendments listed. Tent is 8 autoflowers supposed to have went outside when we went legal. Before I sat them out I looked up the outdoor grow laws. Plants have to be hid unless I built something I couldn't hide 8 plants. So I got stuck with them in my flowering tent. Aurora borealis, Euphoria, and durban poison. The vegging tent are photos 2 Alaskan thunder fucks, 1 laughing buddha, and one birthday cake kush.
Last ones are me not phing water. After 2 months
I'll add with that said this can be plant and strain dependent on when or how much to feed. This is just a basic break down of how I grow.
What I have going on rn in the amendments listed. Tent is 8 autoflowers supposed to have went outside when we went legal. Before I sat them out I looked up the outdoor grow laws. Plants have to be hid unless I built something I couldn't hide 8 plants. So I got stuck with them in my flowering tent. Aurora borealis, Euphoria, and durban poison. The vegging tent are photos 2 Alaskan thunder fucks, 1 laughing buddha, and one birthday cake kush.
Last ones are me not phing water. After 2 months
I'll add with that said this can be plant and strain dependent on when or how much to feed. This is just a basic break down of how I grow.
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UndergroundFarmer
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A little midweek bud porn!
Blueberry
Tangie
Kosher Kush
PPD
I love how PPD is growing out purple and frosty at four weeks.
If you look closely at Kosher Kush, you can see finished Blueberry Kolache seeds peeking out from the cola. I got more than I bargained for when the fan swept across when I was pollinating KK. Blueberry is only showing a bit of purpling but we have another few cool nights ahead. Tangie is showing frost and a bit of potassium deficiency on the bud fans.
I'm going to try out a few different ways of growing after this week. All the plants I have now will finish out on Megacrop which came highly recommended and all new starts will grow a la that famous Canadian grow bro on YouTube. I'll be using Down To Earth Starter (3-3-3), Vegetable Garden (4-4-4) and Rose and Flower (4-8-4) since Gaia Green isn't available here. It will be Feed Every Time You Water vs. Feed A Few Times, Plain Water When Needed. It won't be scientific, but I just don't have the resources or the motivation (especially if motivation counts as a resource) for that. I'll just look at which way grew the best bud over a number of varieties.
Blueberry
Tangie
Kosher Kush
PPD
I love how PPD is growing out purple and frosty at four weeks.
If you look closely at Kosher Kush, you can see finished Blueberry Kolache seeds peeking out from the cola. I got more than I bargained for when the fan swept across when I was pollinating KK. Blueberry is only showing a bit of purpling but we have another few cool nights ahead. Tangie is showing frost and a bit of potassium deficiency on the bud fans.
I'm going to try out a few different ways of growing after this week. All the plants I have now will finish out on Megacrop which came highly recommended and all new starts will grow a la that famous Canadian grow bro on YouTube. I'll be using Down To Earth Starter (3-3-3), Vegetable Garden (4-4-4) and Rose and Flower (4-8-4) since Gaia Green isn't available here. It will be Feed Every Time You Water vs. Feed A Few Times, Plain Water When Needed. It won't be scientific, but I just don't have the resources or the motivation (especially if motivation counts as a resource) for that. I'll just look at which way grew the best bud over a number of varieties.
UndergroundFarmer
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Another accidental cross! I found developing seeds low on the Blueberry near where I dusted GSC with Tangie pollen. Now I've got to look up what that's called.
UndergroundFarmer
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Six plants got cut yesterday!
All tents were emptied and wiped down at some point and the produce is drying in the 3x3 where Deuxberry was. I took the BBs down first. After I cut up the unpollinated one to dry, I had a hankering for a big-ass bowl of Boo-Berry. KK has ripe seed showing in every other bud from that Blueberry cross. Tangie surprised me by maturing faster that expected. All seven of my flowering plants wound up in the 4x4 with Murcott. With this tent freed up, it was time to clear out the nursery and start more seeds!
Three days ago, I laid all the stuff out and premixed my coco, perlite, worm castings and 3-3-3 plus some myco. I'll say one thing about DTE Starter Mix - the inside of that box is smells exactly like agriculture. I'm using these half gallon cell pots because they were laying around and I'm really tired of ripping small plants from small fabric pots at transplant. I got the mixing a bit bass-ackward. I figured on needing six gallons total for a dozen of these pots, used proportional numbers of pots to measure out the big ingredients but forgot that half-empty bag of coco was plain coco until I woke up and noticed no perlite. Thus, two gallons of perlite meant a bit too much potting mix. I moistened the whole thing and let it sit two days until I needed it so that the dry fertilizer might have a chance to get hydrated.
The soil was in fact nice and moist two days later and much nicer to deal with than a bunch of dust. The seeds are BC Mango, ILGM G-13, Expert Sweet Zombie, Pyramid Romulan, Humboldt Seed Org Chocolate Mint OG, Pyramid Purple Urkle, Greenhouse Cloud Walker, Seedsman Magnum Auto and Canuk Cheese Auto. The beer is 4 Hands Fest Bier 'cause the Oktoberfest stuff is out.
The BC Mango will be a seed project called "Ambika". The six other photo fems are the next wave for regular flower and the autos might just go in the backyard until the outside temperatures say otherwise.
All tents were emptied and wiped down at some point and the produce is drying in the 3x3 where Deuxberry was. I took the BBs down first. After I cut up the unpollinated one to dry, I had a hankering for a big-ass bowl of Boo-Berry. KK has ripe seed showing in every other bud from that Blueberry cross. Tangie surprised me by maturing faster that expected. All seven of my flowering plants wound up in the 4x4 with Murcott. With this tent freed up, it was time to clear out the nursery and start more seeds!
Three days ago, I laid all the stuff out and premixed my coco, perlite, worm castings and 3-3-3 plus some myco. I'll say one thing about DTE Starter Mix - the inside of that box is smells exactly like agriculture. I'm using these half gallon cell pots because they were laying around and I'm really tired of ripping small plants from small fabric pots at transplant. I got the mixing a bit bass-ackward. I figured on needing six gallons total for a dozen of these pots, used proportional numbers of pots to measure out the big ingredients but forgot that half-empty bag of coco was plain coco until I woke up and noticed no perlite. Thus, two gallons of perlite meant a bit too much potting mix. I moistened the whole thing and let it sit two days until I needed it so that the dry fertilizer might have a chance to get hydrated.
The soil was in fact nice and moist two days later and much nicer to deal with than a bunch of dust. The seeds are BC Mango, ILGM G-13, Expert Sweet Zombie, Pyramid Romulan, Humboldt Seed Org Chocolate Mint OG, Pyramid Purple Urkle, Greenhouse Cloud Walker, Seedsman Magnum Auto and Canuk Cheese Auto. The beer is 4 Hands Fest Bier 'cause the Oktoberfest stuff is out.
The BC Mango will be a seed project called "Ambika". The six other photo fems are the next wave for regular flower and the autos might just go in the backyard until the outside temperatures say otherwise.
UndergroundFarmer
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GSC and PPD are getting close to chop.
Here's the rest of the tent from this morning.
I like the purpling I'm already seeing in those two. I've put them on the do-not-feed list. Lavender is only just fattening up and starting to smell.
I've transplanted all but three of the seedlings. I mixed three 1.5 gallon pots of 70/30 coco with one pot of worm castings and 6 oz of D-T-E 4-4-4 Veggie Garden. I needed to do this for three batches.
All the babies seem happy in their new places in the veg tent, even the two autos. I moved them in 3 gallon pots to finish in. When veg is over for the photos, I'll transplant them to 5 gallon fabric pots. I'm trying the 1.5 gallon plastic ones because I hate transplanting out of a fabric pot.
Here's the rest of the tent from this morning.
I like the purpling I'm already seeing in those two. I've put them on the do-not-feed list. Lavender is only just fattening up and starting to smell.
I've transplanted all but three of the seedlings. I mixed three 1.5 gallon pots of 70/30 coco with one pot of worm castings and 6 oz of D-T-E 4-4-4 Veggie Garden. I needed to do this for three batches.
All the babies seem happy in their new places in the veg tent, even the two autos. I moved them in 3 gallon pots to finish in. When veg is over for the photos, I'll transplant them to 5 gallon fabric pots. I'm trying the 1.5 gallon plastic ones because I hate transplanting out of a fabric pot.
Dannyboy58
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I took a couple cuttings from my autos and they didn't grow much. One was just a 4" tall runt with one big cola. The other was about 10" tall with 5 fat colas like the one pictured in my hand. I started them in hydro and moved them outside in July in fabric bags with coast of maine soil and no other nutes. I will definitely never grow in hydro again. Way too much hassle for the return and I feel like the weed has an odd almost chemical flavor and aroma to it. Much happier with what I produced outdoors.
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uglygangaguy
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Yes mine are doing the same but I’m running 5 gallon smart pots. I will be going to 7 gallon pots next grow.