how do these sprouts look?

[dustydundee]

today is day 11 since these jack herar sprouts came up from the soil. I watered them with ph'd water on day 7 using 10 squirts out of a spray bottle, and it looked a little dry yesterday so I gave them 3 more squirts each of water. Do they look overwatered or otherwise unhealthy? Anything I should be doing at this stage? They stretched a little in the sprouter box so I'm propping them up with toothpicks a little but I think they probly don't need that anymore. I'm wondering at what point should I replant them into their final pot, which will be a 3 gallon pot? I always like to start out in a solo cup and then move to a pot to help with watering and am always wondering at what point to transplant, so I figure I'd ask and see what everyone thinks.

 

[9fingerleafs]

Transplant when roots get all over the pot. Remove the support toothpicks. If you provide support now the plants will always be flimsy and weak. They need the motivation to harden up

 

[dustydundee]

when you say roots get all over you mean when they fill up the cup on all sides? how often do you water in these cups? how long you think they should stay in the cups?

 

[JeffInCanada]

Here is a grow podcast that covers when/ how to transplant to the final pot. Have a listen....good luck. Plants look good so far.

 

[9fingerleafs]

Yeah i mean when you can roots going around, dont need to fill The cup, watering is another clue, if you have to water too often (daily or more) it's probably a good time to trabsplant. Lift the pot before and after watering to get a sense of when to water using weight

 

[Catfish22]

When mine are in cups I weigh them to determine if it is time to water.

 

[quirk]

If they were mine, I would do this.

Time to transplant. Get your 3 gal pots ready, filling with a nice light, fluffy, airy, well draining medium, building up around one of your solos (to form a mold.) Slowly water until a slight runoff and let them acclimate to grow conditions (24hrs min) then transplant, bringing medium to within one inch of first one fingered leaf. Keep your medium moist, not wet, by not watering too often. I hope you have more watts to throw at them to prevent further stretch.

 

[dustydundee]

this overwatering problem is plaguing me. I did not water them since I posted the picture above yesterday, and now they look droopy and overwatered? how that possible? looking thru the clear plastic cup, it appears more dry since yesterday but what the hell is going on with the leaves now? will this return to normal? I'm on day 12, i drenched the cup when I planted the seed, did not rewater again until day 7. I watered again a little on day 9. Not sure how I overdid it. is it too late? I wanted to wait until they are dry and thirsty until replanting them is that the right thing or do I replant now?

edit: the dark wet cup on the right is a new seed that I just planted, not a plant yet.

 

[9fingerleafs]

they need water right away, try to lift the cups before and after watering to understand when they need water by weight

 

[dustydundee]

dont they look waterlogged? the leaves tell me its waterlogged, but the cups feel and look pretty dry.... why are the leafs curling in like that if they need water right away

 

[9fingerleafs]

Yeah because they do, too much water and too dry both make leaves droopy

 

[9fingerleafs]

They are not overwatered

 

[MeEasy]

Another thing is roots don't like light at all. If you're not repotting right now I would get a colored solo cup and cut the bottom off completely for drainage and put the clear one inside of it

 

[dustydundee]

well, I watered two of them last night. they first shriveled a bit and I thought they were gonna die, then this morning they are opening back up and looking a lot better, so I watered the rest of them. seems weed is always lying to me on when it needs water or not....

 

[dustydundee]

great idea!

 

[Canuck147]

And there's your problem - the roots are not happy cuz they are being abused by any light coming into that clear plastic cup. Transplant to get your roots happy and the rest of the plant will follow.

 

[dustydundee]

9fingerleafs and all, thanks for the help and suggestions. I watered em, a few hours later, they looked like they were gonna die, about 12 hours later, all was well and all are happy. I went and replanted them in their permanent homes, in a nice moist medium of ocean forest with extra perlite that has been sitting for about a day in that warm space. hopefully they'll take to it. The soil was moist and heavy but not packed. gave them just a little water to settle them in. I know you're gonna tell me to lift the pots, but what do yall think, I figure at least a good week before the first watering? Anything else I should be doing that comes to mind?

i've been growing for almost year and recently my bad habits have caught up with me. Ive been overwatering and not realizing it the last couple of harvests and it seems that it has gotten into my head. I'm second guessing myself at every turn and I've lost my weed mojo . I appreciate finding this board to bounce ideas off of.

 

[PLreef]

I find some plants to be super emotional. They pout when they get watered, they pout if they're dry, pout if they're hungry, pout if they're roots are exposed to sunlight and so on. Long suppressed mommy issues? IDK?! Some plants are just like that. Just can't keep them happy.
over all they look pretty decent.

 

[SoOrbudgal]

Hey man you ain't the only one with the " weed mojo blues " it's all around us LOL. Just keep doing what your doing now, i got a shitty mess going in my tent but it's keeping me from thinking of some of the outside world events going on. And it's winter don't know where your at but try and stay focused your getting this grow under control i hope and we all wish you luck. It will get easier you will get better just follow good advise, learn from mistakes. You can do this.

 

[dustydundee]

I replanted those 6 sprouts into my 3 gallon pots with a ton of holes in the bottom and sides. ocean forest with an extra 20% or so of perlite mixed in. They were replanted 4 days ago.

pot with fresh soil/perlite out of the bag, moist and fluffy, without any watering = 8lbs
I watered to runoff = 11 lbs
planted sprouts, 4 days later with no watering = so far dried to 10lbs 2 oz

With that said, today at 10 lbs 2oz, I'd say the top inch is dry, then it gets moist. soil has great consistency, still real fluffy. so far, i think I'm pleased with how they look unless something jumps out to people.

They look like they are developing their 4th node. I plan to top them when the 5th node starts to form between 4th and 5th node. They are on day 17 today since they sprouted and on their 4th day in the big pots.

How much longer should I wait for the first real watering?
Do I water the next time to runoff, or just a little in the middle?
If it was out of the bag at 8 lbs, should I let it dry till it is pretty much like it was out of the bag back down to 8lbs? or get down to 9 lbs? hell that may be another week.... looking for feedback!