Smoklahoma
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Forgot to add to add that I do nute changes weekly. But must confess that I do not add water through the week which I'm sure is part of my problem.
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HYDRO Holiday Treats -(here we grow again)-
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I don't have definitive proof - but here's my 'speculation' on why I see nute burn:
I think my growing medium is prone to it regardless of the amount or type of nutrient used.
I think it is also a respiration issue. Ideal water temperate for hydro is about 68f for two out of 3 grows my tub temps average about 75f. I think with warmer liquid and ambient air temps respiration for the plant is increased so that more nutrients are taken in by the roots. Once upon a time I used to actually try my best to stick with the guidelines for hydro, liquid tub temp about 68f, I changed tubs out and did all fresh nutes and liquid every 10 days to 2 weeks. In the end I found that those guidelines still did not eliminate nute burn for 2 out of 3 grows. I do think that certain strains are more prone to it than others - generally broad lighter colored strains seem to show the effect more than darker leafed hybrids. I also know that it has appeared suddenly on more than one occasion when I allowed tub liquid level to fall below around 8 inches from the top of tub. Too much nutes in a rapid respiration environment is my guess on that one. But, over-all I'm not displeased with my grows - just would like to do better. I'm not sure I have a set answer for why I experience this issue and it's quite possibly a combination of several factors at play AND I do flush my plants for the last 7-20 days so I know they're not loaded with extra nutrients they don't need. I will continue to work on the line between healthy happy and potent and having nice looking plants as well. I'm always open to suggestions and thoughts - I'll take whatever help I can get. Yet, I've always told fellow growers that the goal is to grow the best bud you can, maybe not necessarily the best looking leaves.
I think my growing medium is prone to it regardless of the amount or type of nutrient used.
I think it is also a respiration issue. Ideal water temperate for hydro is about 68f for two out of 3 grows my tub temps average about 75f. I think with warmer liquid and ambient air temps respiration for the plant is increased so that more nutrients are taken in by the roots. Once upon a time I used to actually try my best to stick with the guidelines for hydro, liquid tub temp about 68f, I changed tubs out and did all fresh nutes and liquid every 10 days to 2 weeks. In the end I found that those guidelines still did not eliminate nute burn for 2 out of 3 grows. I do think that certain strains are more prone to it than others - generally broad lighter colored strains seem to show the effect more than darker leafed hybrids. I also know that it has appeared suddenly on more than one occasion when I allowed tub liquid level to fall below around 8 inches from the top of tub. Too much nutes in a rapid respiration environment is my guess on that one. But, over-all I'm not displeased with my grows - just would like to do better. I'm not sure I have a set answer for why I experience this issue and it's quite possibly a combination of several factors at play AND I do flush my plants for the last 7-20 days so I know they're not loaded with extra nutrients they don't need. I will continue to work on the line between healthy happy and potent and having nice looking plants as well. I'm always open to suggestions and thoughts - I'll take whatever help I can get. Yet, I've always told fellow growers that the goal is to grow the best bud you can, maybe not necessarily the best looking leaves.
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Ckbrew
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An observation on grows. I would guess that about 60% of hydro grows seen on this site have a touch of nute burn on the leaf tips, slight yellowing. I have read that some people look for that as a sign of the most nutes a plant can take, then back it off a bit from there. These plants in the wild usually do not experience such an abundance of resources at their roots, but then the genetics of these plants have been selectively bread for their respective properties so they are not wild plants. My hypotheses is that this type of burn is just a side effect of having their environment enhanced to push them to grow so fast and large. Does it matter if the leaf tips are slightly burnt if the plant in general is healthy and produces a high yield? It is not natural for a cannabis plant to have it's roots submerged in water all the time. In fact, it can cause problems. That is why you use an air pump in the res to increase O2 correct? Just speculation.
Very good point Ckbrew Todays cannabis is not the cannabis of old - sometime for better, sometimes for worse and unless you're growing auto's and just letting them go; there's actually very little that is natural about growing indoors. Due to the nature of what we are doing indoor grows MUST be done in a way that is not 'normal' for the plant. Finding the method that works for you and for your plants - no matter your growing medium - is what's really important. I think growing indoors requires more immediate attention on our plants needs, how they grow, what they need and how to produce the best yield and quality and a lot of that involves manipulating a plant in a way that it would not grow naturally.
TOKABIGONE
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ooooweee I can't wait to start my next photo run. I'M going for PPP!!
Update 46: November 12, 2021 Week 6 Day 5
Let the fattening begin. 2 ½ to 3 weeks to go. I’ve started cleaning them up a bit and will continue to spread them out as much as possible in the time they have left. Projected harvest date is December 1st.
Chocolate Mint OG
Banana Kush
Let the fattening begin. 2 ½ to 3 weeks to go. I’ve started cleaning them up a bit and will continue to spread them out as much as possible in the time they have left. Projected harvest date is December 1st.
Chocolate Mint OG
Banana Kush
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grouchyoldman
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I hope you have some help lined up for harvest ol' feller! This is going to be a monster yield.
Holiday Treats indeed!!!
Holiday Treats indeed!!!
Sorry, I don't have an exact count on either plant but it's about 50 flowering branches per plant. At this point my estimate is that I will see a final harvest off of these two that weighs in somewhere in the neighborhood 1.5 and 1.8 lbs dried and cured. I'd be thrilled with more but we will see what time avails. I have 1/2 a pound set aside for oil and already have planned holiday gifts of 1/2 pound; still leaves me a goodly amount to smoke until the next harvest. ALL GWE MEMBERS show up with your membership cards for a free pre-roll by January 1st! 
Update 47: 11.14.21 Week 7 Day 1 •42 Days in •Approximately 14 Days remaining
Here comes the final countdown and I’m getting a little excited about harvest. The Cannabrushes have been ordered and should be here tomorrow and the girls are getting a fresh tub change on Wednesday with ph’d water and Flawless Finish only until they are done. Harvest will be when the flowers are done and I’ve seen the final push on the majority of branches along with my preferred 5%-15% amber trichomes. It should be very close to my projected December 3rd harvest date made at the start of the grow.
The Banana Kush has not filled in as I hoped she would but the buds are dense and have my whole house smelling like bananas - much to my wife’s dismay. The Chocolate Mint OG is just a pleasure for both the eyes and nose, Amazingly-Holy Crap-Oh Baby sweet and sticky. Both girls are at the magnet stage - which you will clearly see in the photos. I am completely OCD when it comes to hairs and fibers on my buds and this time in a grow I’ll be darned if they aren’t pulled to my plants from across the universe! Time to get the tweezers and magnifying glass.
Anyway, on with the show - here are the girls in their fiber coated glory proudly showing off their nice toasty tips - freckles and all. I’ll leave you to decide who’s who 🥸
Here comes the final countdown and I’m getting a little excited about harvest. The Cannabrushes have been ordered and should be here tomorrow and the girls are getting a fresh tub change on Wednesday with ph’d water and Flawless Finish only until they are done. Harvest will be when the flowers are done and I’ve seen the final push on the majority of branches along with my preferred 5%-15% amber trichomes. It should be very close to my projected December 3rd harvest date made at the start of the grow.
The Banana Kush has not filled in as I hoped she would but the buds are dense and have my whole house smelling like bananas - much to my wife’s dismay. The Chocolate Mint OG is just a pleasure for both the eyes and nose, Amazingly-Holy Crap-Oh Baby sweet and sticky. Both girls are at the magnet stage - which you will clearly see in the photos. I am completely OCD when it comes to hairs and fibers on my buds and this time in a grow I’ll be darned if they aren’t pulled to my plants from across the universe! Time to get the tweezers and magnifying glass.
Anyway, on with the show - here are the girls in their fiber coated glory proudly showing off their nice toasty tips - freckles and all. I’ll leave you to decide who’s who 🥸
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SoOrbudgal
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Great looking pictures sure are frosty
Thanks SoOrbudgal - With at least two weeks to go there will be more of that tasty frosting to come
Update 48: Nov 15, 2021 Week 7 Day 2
I changed out tubs one day earlier than originally planned. Water level was low in the tubs so I just went ahead and did their final tub change. Both girls will get nothing but ph balanced water and Flawless Finish from here on out. They’re looking happy and healthy and already bringing me lots of smiles. From this point on I will begin to daily remove leaves that have grown out of buds and start slowly cleaning them up and removing excess foliage in preparation for harvest.
Next update Week 8 Day 1
I changed out tubs one day earlier than originally planned. Water level was low in the tubs so I just went ahead and did their final tub change. Both girls will get nothing but ph balanced water and Flawless Finish from here on out. They’re looking happy and healthy and already bringing me lots of smiles. From this point on I will begin to daily remove leaves that have grown out of buds and start slowly cleaning them up and removing excess foliage in preparation for harvest.
Next update Week 8 Day 1