HYDRO Holiday Treats -(here we grow again)-

[BU2B]

Update 8: 8.5.21

Here's a regular grow issue that can easily be addressed. IF you want to try and figure out what I'm talking about take a look at the two photos below, taken today, BEFORE you look at my response on the issue and how to fix it:

Banana Kush . . . . . . . Chocolate Mint OG

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BK looks good, nice to see some color. If you look closely at the CMOG you will notice that there is a small spot starting on the leaf to the left. As the girls haven't received any nutes yet it looks like the CMOG is going to prefer a bit of MagiCal/CalMag added to her first feeding. When I do a tub change, probably probably in the next few days, adding 1 - 3ml pipette of CalMag for each gallon is on my list for Choco. For the first tub change, tubs will be filled to 3-4 inches below the lid; hydroguard, ph Balanced water to around 6, 1 - 3ml pipette of each of the Flora Hydro Trio per tub (brown, green, pink) AND extra CalMag for Choco as she's saying she would like some. Plants will often 'grow out' of needing extra CalMag, once the plant is established and I've made my first topping, I generally start cutting back on the CalMag and see what she says about it.

 

[TOKABIGONE]

Eagle eyes sir! i couldn't see it until you pointed it out. Passed it by as a speck of dirt, lol.

 

[BU2B]

Update 9: 8.6.21
The girls are 10 days old today and have had their first nutrients introduced with a fresh tub.

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[panalilies]

Roots are gross lookin, but cute babies!

 

[BU2B]

Update 10: 8.10.21

The girls will be two weeks old in about 4 hours, so I'm counting the included photo as Week 2 Day 1 of the grow. The light has been moved down to 24 inches above the top of the tubs. I also added 3ml per gallon of MagiCal/CalMag to the Banana Kush. They've already well started on their on third set of leaves and will have their first topping more than likely before their second week is over. It's all up to them and how they're doing when they're developed enough to top. I find that week 2 or 3 is generally when the girls get their first hair cut; after that there will only be one more at the ends of of each of the two main branches from the Y.

The girls @ Week 2 day 1 (i.e., 15 days old) - BK & Choco

 

[BU2B]

Update 11: 8.13.21

The girls were both topped today. Here they are at 2 weeks and 3 days. Banana Kush on the left Chocolate Mint OG, right.




Net pots are currently about 1.5"-2" above the surface of the water. Tub liquid is 3.5 inches from below the lid. Within the next two weeks I will allow the liquid level in the tubs to drop until it gets to 3-4 inches below the bottom of the net pot.

At this point things are progressing right on schedule - I'll keep you posted on progress.

 

[SoOrbudgal]

Beautiful roots

 

[Ckbrew]

I take it that you topped between node 3 and 4 correct? I have never had a grow start with so little space between the nodes at this stage of growth. Mine are always more stretched out than what you have here. What is your secret to accomplishing this? Light?

 

[BU2B]

Ckbrew Yep, topped between nodes 3 and 4. I’m not really sure what to attribute their stocky nature to. Perhaps a combination of lighting and indica genetics? My plants have never stretched much except during the first 3 weeks of flowering.

 

[Ckbrew]

To clarify your diagram, the black lines on the branches with a green dot at the base represent fan leaves?

 

[BU2B]

Ckbrew Black is branches (but, yes described as you have) the black on the side branches does represent where a fan leaf would be. Grey represents removed fan leaves off of your two main branches and the green dots are flowering growth tips. In the example above there are 40 flowering growth tips - 44 if you count the 4 upward growing growth tips on the two main branches (represented as small circles) in the diagram. If allowed to grow out just one more node before growing upward the plant in the diagram above would have a whopping 68 flowering growth tips in just 8 weeks.

 

[BU2B]

Update 12: 8.16.21
Week 2 Day 6
I finished cleaning up the undergrowth today that was originally left in place to aid with photosynthesis and plant development. The girls are doing well. Even though BK had roots coming out of the net pot first, Choco has pulled ahead as she got her roots to the water first.

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Keeping in mind that ideal liquid temps in your DWC tubs is about 68f; the average water temp for these two since being placed in the net pots has been 75.6f While almost 10 degrees over the ideal liquid temperature they are doing perfectly fine - due to EXCEPTIONAL O2 saturation and aeration. Without this extra boost of O2 and aeration you would more than likely be looking at root issues even at this early stage of development.
Just a side note: the time for root shots is rapidly drawing to a close. As training starts training wire used to produce the structure will secure the lids in place making root shots impractical.​

 

[Ckbrew]

Did you make the carving of the old man in the clay ball at the base of choco?

 

[BU2B]

Update 13: 8.18.21

Here’s the girls today. Week 3 Day 1 - their first training wire

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[BU2B]

Update 14: 8.21.21
Week 3 Day 4
Both girls are developing well. The Banana Kush is slightly smaller than her sister now but is progressing right on schedule. Each plant currently has 6 flowering growth tips - the next node growth on the two main branches (which will happen before week 3 is over) will bring the total up 10 flowering growth tips per plant. Moved the light down to 18" above the canopy. Both plants have had their first full nutrients. Banana Kush on the left and Chocolate Mint OG on the right.

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[TOKABIGONE]

You do have the touch! I see the growth in the girls. Keep on, keeping on!

 

[grouchyoldman]

Greetings old friend,

As a big fan of the BU2B PPP method I thought I'd share a pic of my Cinderella XX plant which is currently entering week 5 of LST & strategic defol. My schedule won't permit a full 8 weeks of veg, so as soon as we see the "Fab 44" growth tips she's going into 12/12 flower mode. I'm just now seeing the first sex display, fingers crossed on the "XX" .

Can you explain again about the final "Strategic Topping" where you say:

"When your plant has grown to the point that there are 3 branches growing on each side of the two mainline branches we are going to 'top' the ends of each of them. You should have 3 branches on each side of your two new branches growing horizontally and 3 branches growing upward on each side of the Y. You are basically topping each end of the 'new' branches (each side of the Y) at the end making it split, just as you did for your initial topping that created your plants Y structure. You want to do this when the plant has 3 horizontal 'sets' of leaves. When you top just after the 3rd horizontal node you will have 8 growing branches on each side (including your two vertical branches)."

Are we topping all 12 of the new main branches (6 on each side)? I've never been entirely clear on that and maybe you could elaborate or take some pics when you come to that point in your current grow?

Mahalo Brother!

 

[SoOrbudgal]

OK i'm crossing my fingers X , so far the spread looks good to me.

 

[BU2B]

You are only topping your plant 3 times total. 1 Time to produce the initial Y or T and 1 time at each end. Topping the plant slows growth, so; while you can top each and every end if you want to, it's not really a part of the PPP method. Note that the PDF version does address this but apparently not very clearly - my apologies. My reasoning for NOT topping each and every branch is that A) topping slows growth B) You only get two new growth tips per topping while allowing the branch to grow normally will also produce the same amount of growth tips WITHOUT slowing down plant growth and development or making your plant wider. I hope this helps explain the Topping portion a bit better.

 

[BU2B]

She's looking good. Hmmm... are we supposed to guess whether its an auto or not as well?