I had "discovered" hermi's on my own. But this final grow (see my post) I got nanners and worse. I had feminized my own weed just by picking the males and; still getting a few seeds, which went on to the next generation, etc. It wasn't too bad for several grows until this one. The upshot of it was that I could easily control it, never got enough seeds to kill bud growth. At first the males showed up all alone between nodes. Then beneath nodes to include clusters. Then nanners, Now actual male flowers open inside the buds, total stealth! I've ordered "femanized" seeds and now you've got me scared!!! :frustrated: