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Help Wanted, Weed Not Cloudy

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The3rdman

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Fellow Growers,

Organic grower here. I have an ongoing problem with my grows and looking for help to fix it. I am on a new grow – today is day 3 day of flower.

For some reason, the trichomes on my plants are NOT getting cloudy and therefore, the final product is not psychoactive. I am hoping someone has heard of this problem before and can tell me what is going on here.​

This is not a one-time occurrence. I been having this problem for a little while now and cannot figure it out.

In my opinion, this is not an issue with harvesting too early or late, inadequate lighting, light leaks, etc. It is about a normal grow from seed to harvest without any major issues except for the fact the trichomes do not become cloudy and the end product is non-psychoactive.

If someone has seen this before or knows someone who may have knowledge of such an unusual occurrence, please let me know. Thank you.
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Additional Information.
First day flower: 1-11-2023
Soil: Happy Frog with some Compost, 4-4-4 and 2-8-4 dry amendments added.
Current Strains:7-9 week Indica Strains Original Glue, Black Domina.
Lighting: Vivo-sun LED Grow Lighting 400 Watts + 100 Watts (500 watts at the wall).
Water pH Range: 6-2 thru Humidity Range: 30% - 50%.
Temperature Range: 70-80.
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Welcome to GWE and thanks for the post! 👋🏼
I was going to ask about your seed source and strains but you answered that question. This is a strange one - are they autos? Photos?
There is a fine line but light degrades trichomes and darkness develops them. What is your light schedule? My suggestion ? Let the plant tell you when it’s ready not the seed supplier. Finishing times are average of averages. Count flowering from when flowers actually appear not from when you switch to 12/12. Use supplier guidelines as guidelines and listen to your plants. You can quit growing them at any time - but - they are mature when trichomes are at least cloudy with your preference of amber. Most plants will look done before they are. A mature bud will meet the flowering specs of at least 8 weeks with cloudy trichomes throughout. If you hold on just a bit after you’re sure the buds are done you will see new white pistils forming among the already mature ones that have darkened; once those appear your flower is done and ready to harvest when your desired amount of amber develops.

best wishes and Happy Pharming! ✌️
 
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Can you post photos of the flowers taken a week or two before they stop developing and when you suspect development of trichomes cease please?
 
I don’t know if you’ve ever grown or been around CBD/hemp plants but seed source is a REAL concern as hemp will look like, flower like, often even smell like their THC heavy cousins but actually produce very little THC themselves.
 
I'm confused. You say first day of flower was 3 days ago and you're concerned that you don't have cloudy trichomes yet? Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't it take a couple weeks before they begin getting cloudy? It's been my experience that plants will continue to produce new trichomes throughout flower and bud process. Sorry if I've misunderstood what you're try to convey here.
 
I think he's saying this has been an ongoing issue and that he's on day 3 of flowering of the current grow and would like to avoid the problem this grow if possible :)
 
Really hope for your sake it's not the hop latent viroid: https://www.marijuanaventure.com/decoding-the-dudding-disease/
Do a Google search for cannabis dudding.
Apparently this has been a real issue over the last year or two, exploding in the marijuana farms. Viruses and viroids can actually be carried in seeds too, or be in your soil or your environment and so every time you plant new seeds they could be dudding again? There are some geneticists trying to work on identifying strains that are resistant to it, with the thought that basically some marijuana strains might go away forever because this thyroid will just destroy them. It's my understanding that happened in the hop industry: there are hop varieties that they just can't grow anymore because of the viroid.
 
I don't think so. I have used different seed sites plus I cannot find any commentary on the internet where growers are complaining of this type of issue.

Could it be an uptake issue like phosphorus, for example? I was going to try TPS Signal this time.
 
This can be a factor... I for instance.. am fully bias against my own grown... LOL.. but friends tell me it's GOOOD.. and not to worry..... that will mean it will just keep getting better and better... lol
 
this is a head scratcher for me... I always get high, and been doing so for almost 50 years, sometimes more, sometimes less but if the weed is weed and not hemp it always gets me high. now, if it's not good I have to smoke more, but it still works ??? I'm stumped. Here's an idea- how about some photo's and much of a DETAILED description of each as possible, it looks to me like the dr's are in the house but they need your help to come to a proper diagnosis.

Not to be offensive, so please don't take this wrong But... KISS - the question was "Can anyone else back the non-pychoactive claim or is it just yourself?" in other words do other people get high off your buds bud or is your answer correct? "This is a problem the *I* have with my personal grows." ?
 
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SoOrbudgal: I'm in an illegal state so the only weed I get high from would have to come from my personal grow. The last time I smoked weed that got me high was in 1982 when I was in the military.

My problem is trichomes are not maturing to a cloudy state. It cannot be pychoactive if not cloudy.
 
The3rdman I'm not a Doctor nor am I giving medical advice.
Iv heard of a couple people that have had problems with not getting high and having a Vitamin D deficiency, coincidence. it seem that what iv heard also links up with the people that don't get effects off edibles. Just worth mentioning.

As far as not getting "cloudy" if it's consistently happening and from different seed suppliers then I'd have to say you are doing some. In a nutshell- CBG is the the pre cursor acid to all cannabinoid, found when clear from there thing are transformed to all your other Cbd's, Thc's and such.... this is the stage that you find "Cloudy" when you Thc is peak ripe, after that the amber is the degrading of the Thc to Cbn. Nutrients help plants develop but don't create Thc, that's genetics and to some degree the plants natural reaction to UV light.

you haven't mentioned Autos? Or Photos? Nor the length of time that you flower for? Only that you Know what you are doing.

Without pictures of plants and from you description this would be my only guesses.

Blowdout2269 it's because you didn't dig deep enough, they're in a pineapple under the sea living right next door to the Grammar Nazi.🤣
 
very interesteenk - gnus to me. TPS makes good products - in the process of switching to their entire line, but if your plants have been healthy up to this point the Signal while enhancing terpene production wont make a huge difference to the plants genetic tendencies; namely THC/Trichome production.
 
The3rdman
It is also worth noting that if it's clear it can still be psychoactive. Clear or early Tri's make people paranoid, are racy and speedy feeling.
 
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