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HELP! Have we Hermies?
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rangerjake
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Yeah, not sure about your situation, but this looks not good. Plucked a little sac from under a flower and opened it up to find the tiniest little seed.
So. Fuck.
What next? These plants are 2+ weeks from "harvest". Day 58 of what should be 70-80 days. The most developed plant has it's biggest flowers at about 50/50 for pistil change, but anything below the uppermost prized flowers are still all white. The other two plants at most are 15% turned red, lagging behind the most developed plant by a week it seems.
All the plants got the ballz. Will they even try to progress the flowers anymore or will it all just be energy to grow them seeds?
Def could use some good ideas or advice. Would love to see these through as best as possible since they are so far along.
So. Fuck.
What next? These plants are 2+ weeks from "harvest". Day 58 of what should be 70-80 days. The most developed plant has it's biggest flowers at about 50/50 for pistil change, but anything below the uppermost prized flowers are still all white. The other two plants at most are 15% turned red, lagging behind the most developed plant by a week it seems.
All the plants got the ballz. Will they even try to progress the flowers anymore or will it all just be energy to grow them seeds?
Def could use some good ideas or advice. Would love to see these through as best as possible since they are so far along.
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rangerjake
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There's a thousand reasons it could have hermied. I am not running a biolab here, so an open door could have let pollen in through the vents of the tent. Or pollen tracked in on clothes. Or missed nanners due to one of the stressors that has hit my plants (high heat during week 3-4, higher than desirable humidity throughout). Could be something to do with the deficiencies and leaf damage which I have still not been able to isolate or fully resolve. So, the answer is who fucking knows.
Most importantly is that I have 2 photos now in the same tent who are primed to flip (was just waiting to get the autos all done). Now I don't even want to use this fucking tent anymore. Rather start them in a clean environment and work really hard to be as clean and attentive as possible.
Most importantly is that I have 2 photos now in the same tent who are primed to flip (was just waiting to get the autos all done). Now I don't even want to use this fucking tent anymore. Rather start them in a clean environment and work really hard to be as clean and attentive as possible.
rangerjake
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Also, if I am getting seeds from these plants I want the final consensus. Most say chuck the seeds, others say if it was stress-induced hermiedom and not questionable genetics than you are better situated to use those seeds. These are good Nirvana White Widow AF seeds, so I don't question the genes.
Anecdotally I was in Alaska a couple years ago and bought a gram of a 1:1 strain called Frosted Cookies. Great bud, lovely high. But in that one gram I got like probably 10 seeds. From those seeds I grew 2 plants last summer that were proud and strong sinsemilla femmes that would have yielded a combined 10 oz if it weren't for late flowering bud rot wiping out half the harvest. So, there's an anecdote.
Now to vent;
2 grows in 2 years and 2 times now I am getting hit with late flowering issues. Both years I am staring at these big, glittering colas, and each time some fucking detriment has shot a large percentage of the take. Pretty fucking frustrating, especially after moving indoors from last year to avoid fickle weather issues (the cause of my bud rot). I will be fukkin fuming if I get these photos through to the end to find a similar result.
Anecdotally I was in Alaska a couple years ago and bought a gram of a 1:1 strain called Frosted Cookies. Great bud, lovely high. But in that one gram I got like probably 10 seeds. From those seeds I grew 2 plants last summer that were proud and strong sinsemilla femmes that would have yielded a combined 10 oz if it weren't for late flowering bud rot wiping out half the harvest. So, there's an anecdote.
Now to vent;
2 grows in 2 years and 2 times now I am getting hit with late flowering issues. Both years I am staring at these big, glittering colas, and each time some fucking detriment has shot a large percentage of the take. Pretty fucking frustrating, especially after moving indoors from last year to avoid fickle weather issues (the cause of my bud rot). I will be fukkin fuming if I get these photos through to the end to find a similar result.
Mr.furley
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I was on vacation and had a plant Herm on me, didn't catch it for some time. Three on the four plant had a mix of seeds but nothing major, one here, one there.
The worst of it came on the hermaphrodite itself, got just over 4 oz off the plant and after cleaning it I had a Oz of seed.
Not bad but not the quality I usually produce. This is the kind of hermaphrodite I speak of.....
it was allowed to stay in the tent for the personal experience and the fact damage had been done, I found it at week 6 of 10.
The worst of it came on the hermaphrodite itself, got just over 4 oz off the plant and after cleaning it I had a Oz of seed.
Not bad but not the quality I usually produce. This is the kind of hermaphrodite I speak of.....
it was allowed to stay in the tent for the personal experience and the fact damage had been done, I found it at week 6 of 10.
rangerjake
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Oof. Yeah, it's a good experience to learn from at least. I have yet to see any male flowers, or even any nanners. I won't pretend like I've been picking over these with a fine tooth comb searching for nanners, but only today did I lay down in the tent to get a look below the leaves/flowers and I saw rather widespread (more than a few here and there) ball production on the underside of the buds- less the main colas and more the peripheral branches. Said balls are like the one I pinched to find the tiny seed.
So I guess I am passed the "what" stage here and am in the "what now" stage.
-Are all these seeds, assuming they develop to viability, trash? Does strong genes open up the potential that stress alone won't pass down hermie tendencies?
-How do I proceed for my two photo plants that are about to go into flowering? I have to assume this tent is contaminated, right? How does one easily decontaminate?
So I guess I am passed the "what" stage here and am in the "what now" stage.
-Are all these seeds, assuming they develop to viability, trash? Does strong genes open up the potential that stress alone won't pass down hermie tendencies?
-How do I proceed for my two photo plants that are about to go into flowering? I have to assume this tent is contaminated, right? How does one easily decontaminate?
Mr.furley
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While gone for 12 days the temperature dropped, my system has auto temp controls (no WiFi, lol) and the new little heater I had put in my tent had a red glow from the coils, This plant was the closest to it.
I had someone with no experience tending the grow in my absence, I would have noticed it and removed most likely the heater first but if not the plant sooner. Like I said the damage was done so I just finished it like the advice I have given and it was still a good grow.
I had someone with no experience tending the grow in my absence, I would have noticed it and removed most likely the heater first but if not the plant sooner. Like I said the damage was done so I just finished it like the advice I have given and it was still a good grow.
alltatup
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rangerjake I don't see any nanners on yours, just calyces.
They are single calyces. Mr.furley I don't think I was the one who coined that term... but I have some on my plants, too. One single calyx will grow where growth was pinched off previously.
They are single calyces. Mr.furley I don't think I was the one who coined that term... but I have some on my plants, too. One single calyx will grow where growth was pinched off previously.
Whether or not to use those seed is up to the individual, they can carry a tendency to hermie, but dont have to. I would try them, but only 1 the first grow and watch close! I have friends that are financially challenged, and I give them seed (I make some with certain strains like Rusty Glue)
As for the others I would wait until these are almost finished to flip
I have read so many different opinions on pollen, from 1 week off the plant to a year, IDK!!!
I dont use a tent, so IDK how to clean it,,,,
As for the others I would wait until these are almost finished to flip
I have read so many different opinions on pollen, from 1 week off the plant to a year, IDK!!!
I dont use a tent, so IDK how to clean it,,,,