Grow journal, Soil, LED, LST, FIM, Blue Moon (blueberry x ice cream)

[c0ryp1]

Hi guys new here decided to start with a journal I already have it posted else where I’m already 4 weeks in but it doesn’t seem to be active so moving it here.... thanks for looking

was in the dispensary with my wife they had a basket of seeds joked around that we should try growing not expecting a go for it!
picked up some blue moon seeds dropped them in water until they cracked went from there to paper towel untill tap root was 1/4-1/2 inch long and then into jiffy peat pellets 4 days from seed and i now have 3 babies happily growing, gonna wait till i have more root development and pot up into a 4" pot and then finally into a CuFt fabric pot. right most plant may have been stretching as she was up first and i still had the humidity cover on or its just cause shes a day older, left and middle broke soil at the exact same time and are also the exact same size. looking forward to continuing this journey.

 

[c0ryp1]

The girls are growing nicely haven’t decided if they are stretching or not right now led is only running veg so 100w. I’m thinking I’m either gonna repot them up to a 4” pot tonight when I get home or tomorrow morning. Gotta get a fan on them and see if they are still looking stretched after I may be switching on veg+bloom for the full 185w

 

[c0ryp1]

I Have decided my girls are not stretching now all fan leaves are remaining tight together... I lowered the like to 12” last Wednesday as well as potted in 4” pots as I was experiencing some yellowing of the first serrated leaves, by Friday the leaves on two plants were curling like tacos, Saturday morning I decided to raise the light back to 18” and angle the fan down at them some more. When I checked them on Sunday the leaves seem to have went back to normal however are slightly deformed now, growth is really starting to pick up

 

[c0ryp1]

Ok I have decided that these girls possibly do not like me.... started with possible stretching in week one then moved onto cupping in week two. week three we saw some yellowing and now in week four we have some major clawing which I have repositioned my fan to try alleviate this issue. we are also seeing some yellowing in the first serrated leaves so I’m unsure if I’m having a nitrogen deficiency but they are grown in a premium organic potting mix and made sure that there was no time release fertilizers in it so I should be ok for nutrients. I have been watering every other or third day I wait until the top is bone dry before soaking pot through this doesn’t seem to have a effect on the clawing symptoms... I may try raising my light a little more see but pretty much this has turned into 1000ways to kill a plant.

 

[MeestaFeesha]

I learned as well, LED lighting is better 18-24" away, possible more for younger seedlings..I think for my WW I had it around 26" (highest I could go!)

For the soil, did you happen to add anything to it? I looove Perlite, but I'm not seeing any there.

 

[c0ryp1]

I amended my garden soil with peat and cow/sheep manure as well as guano and ground up fish bones I think it was a white powder just said fish fertilizer. After rototillering this into my garden I mixed 50/50 with fresh organic vegetable soil I bought and then filled all my pots with this mixture... light is at 18” from the top of the seedlings now heading into work but I’ll get updated pics tonight

 

[MeestaFeesha]

It sounds to me like all the t's are crossed and i's are dotted. It may be that the soil is a little too hearty for your plants right now. They're young, and the focus is on the roots, they'd like a breathable space to expand in order to support what's above. If your soil drains very well, I would believe it's more that there is an abundance of nutrients that they are absorbing. A plant so young is sensitive, and in my opinion should not be receiving macro-nutrients of any kind.

Before I put things in the ground (mind you, it's not 'pot' a majority of the time) I do a soil test to gauge the starting point. Don't want to add too much nitrogen to nitrogen rich soil, etc., otherwise dig a hole 2-3x larger and use your own mix, without that of your own soil if it's not the best quality. Is your plan to go to ground?

 

[c0ryp1]

Nope they will be thrown in a tent for flowering. Snapped these befor work lower set of leaves are dead... the soil drains fast and is fairly loose ... I’ll be watering them tonight they should have been watered before I left but I wanna see what they do with a lack of water for the 9h I’m here but I’m pretty confident that the 2 or three days between watering is pretty decent I’m kinda wondering if it is the light tho maby I do need too pull it way up

 

[Canuck147]

I'm sorry - but my opinion is - that's a sad looking plant. Good story - you are an eager grower and want to do what's best. Not sure what that is for your plant - but - next time you have to get the roots established with proper grow medium - add 30% of your mix with perlite - And grow from there. Happy roots make for a happy plant which follows with lots of flowers.
Good luck growing.

 

[c0ryp1]

I'm sorry - but my opinion is - that's a sad looking plant. Good story - you are an eager grower and want to do what's best. Not sure what that is for your plant - but - next time you have to get the roots established with proper grow medium - add 30% of your mix with perlite - And grow from there. Happy roots make for a happy plant which follows with lots of flowers.
Good luck growing.

Yea I’ll eventually get it right....

 

[c0ryp1]

Little update hit plants with a 25% strength ferts and watered befor I left for the weekend... just returned and the end two plants were looking a lot better so I decided to FIM them, middle plant which is the worst now has all leaves except the new growth dried and wilted so I will just grow this untill it dies or maby just LST it into a spiral....I’ll sleep on it... also ordered a 10l bag of perlite from amazon and I’ll remix my 1cuft fabric pots with some so the soil will be a little better and will have better soil for the next set.

 

[MeestaFeesha]

What does it take to do something right? Experience. How does one get the most experience? Learning from mistakes! What's the kids' rhyme, "if at first we don't succeed, try and try again". Educate yourself a bit more through the web and watch how things take off 😎

 

[c0ryp1]

Oh I’ve been reading tons trust me... I’m pretty sure I screwed these. Plants from the start I hope I get a small harvest off of them even if it’s a gram it’s gonna be the best damn gram I’ve ever smoked lmao

 

[Supermoto182]

A young plant like that especially with that much nutrients in the soil you should be watering every day the little plants roots are small and are not reaching the bottom of the pots yet so they can’t reach the water to get a drink. Also the daily watering will help flush some of the extra nutrients the plants are absorbing since you have so much nutrients in the soil you should just water water water til they are happy n bottom leaves start to turn yellowish or plant is super light green those are signs of nutrient deficiencies. The lights hot and drying the soil on top where the roots are right now if that makes sense hope that helps always wait I know it’s hard til at least 3 or 4th node to FIM your plants maybe happy looking but just went threw the ringer with all the stresses and changes don’t do to much at one time but your learning it’s a process.

 

[Supermoto182]

Also try instead of trying to start with a super mix soil go with the tried and trusted soils Fox Farms are a great medium and only 20 bucks for a 2cu ft bag I mix happy frog and ocean forest they love it!! Just my 2 sense I’ll be running super mix next time but u got to have all the testers and make your mix let it sit a few days n run soil tests to make sure all the parameters fall in the guide lines for the recommended soil medium for marijuana!! Good luck

 

[c0ryp1]

A young plant like that especially with that much nutrients in the soil you should be watering every day the little plants roots are small and are not reaching the bottom of the pots yet so they can’t reach the water to get a drink. Also the daily watering will help flush some of the extra nutrients the plants are absorbing since you have so much nutrients in the soil you should just water water water til they are happy n bottom leaves start to turn yellowish or plant is super light green those are signs of nutrient deficiencies. The lights hot and drying the soil on top where the roots are right now if that makes sense hope that helps always wait I know it’s hard til at least 3 or 4th node to FIM your plants maybe happy looking but just went threw the ringer with all the stresses and changes don’t do to much at one time but your learning it’s a process.

Won’t I over water them if I am watering every day? How much should I be watering if I do that? Soaking the pot with run off or half cup sorta thing

 

[Supermoto182]

If bottom of the pots are still wet like beyond damp than just a half cup would be sufficient. Only time u need to water to run off is a flush after feeding but based on your soil they should have plenty of nutrients in the soil I wouldn’t feed yet cause really if u don’t got a root structure than there are no roots to soak up the nutrients and your kinda wasting them. Best thing would be if your hose water is fine to use without having to adjust pH than get a nozzle that has a mist function and mist them daily they love it just don’t leave water on leaves either let plants sit a few mins to dry n let foliage soak up water before back under the lights so u don’t burn them. Also if u are anxious to feed seedlings best way is to use a foliage/foliar nutrient in use a supplement called super thrive works well. Foliage nutrients are great as a supplement to your root nutrients it is not a feeding plan.. can also use a fish emulsion,kelp,seaweed,root booster(great white) mix nutrients at 1/4 recommended strength in a gallon and put in a spray bottle n spray right after lights out top and bottom of leaves. There a product called Harvest Alive too for a foliage spray look it up if recommend it the best thing about foliage nutrients are they repair deficiencies quicker and help plant from being stressed out.. look into it and adjust as needed and find what works for ur lip girls!! From one Corey to another smoke on keep at it!! PM any questions u got bruh

 

[c0ryp1]

I don’t know why I haven’t looked at the bottom of the pots but I turned one over today

i will be moving them into there final pot between tommorow and the weekend

 

[Supermoto182]

Are those the roots sticking out the bottom of the pots I can’t really tell but when u move them if that’s a root ball take a butter knife and loosen up around the edges of the pot and plant the whole root ball try not to disturb them and if ur gonna amend the soil get the new pot rdy and amended and plant them in new pots wait til u see new growth than start ur nutrient feeding. I’d go pick up some super thrive from Lowe’s before u transplant and spray them after u water the transplant it helps with transplant shock and I use it every couple days.

 

[c0ryp1]

Yea that’s the roots it’s not solid root on the bottom but now I’m wondering if they are a little root bound