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LuckyAcres
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Nugs, big thanks sir, finally spotted one of the thrips, never had to deal with them so didn't know what to look for. Dinner then feeding, spraying and upkeep. Since I'm a month away from 12/12 I was thinking neem oil would be ok to use. If another spray is needed for control I'd switch to insecticidal soap so the bastards don't build tolerance. What do you guys think?
also got some ph down, water is in buckets already at a nice 6-6.5 and warming up to room temp.
also got some ph down, water is in buckets already at a nice 6-6.5 and warming up to room temp.
LuckyAcres
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Thanks king, I'll try that next time, for now budget calls for using what's already on the shelf. Stupid wallet...
Royal Nugs
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The wallet is a jerk...
Glad you spotted the thrips. King's got you all set...
captain jacks deadbug brew is what we use. Get a mister for maximum coverage.
Monterey makes a spinosad too.
Hopefully jerkface walletpants won't hassle you.
Glad you spotted the thrips. King's got you all set...
captain jacks deadbug brew is what we use. Get a mister for maximum coverage.
Monterey makes a spinosad too.
Hopefully jerkface walletpants won't hassle you.
NebulaHaze
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Neem oil should work on thrips, and is completely safe to use in the vegetative stage 
I second Spinosad as another bottle to get for the garden if you get a chance down the road. It's really safe to use any time, up until the day before harvest, and it's effective against a lot of different bugs including spider mites and whiteflies
Your plants and setup look great! I'm looking forward to your grow!
I second Spinosad as another bottle to get for the garden if you get a chance down the road. It's really safe to use any time, up until the day before harvest, and it's effective against a lot of different bugs including spider mites and whiteflies Your plants and setup look great! I'm looking forward to your grow!
LuckyAcres
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Just walked in for am check up, man what a mess I left! So no pics this morning except for this one special for tika and wattze! Take a toke, kill that shake fellows! 😜
Otherwise they got fed, neem sprayed, sang to, smoked up and got plain old Lucky love.
My 2 prong non digital ph crappy reader died on me in middle of feeding so ph at the moment is unknown, just ordered drmeter ph pen.
Just walked in for am check up, man what a mess I left! So no pics this morning except for this one special for tika and wattze! Take a toke, kill that shake fellows! 😜
Otherwise they got fed, neem sprayed, sang to, smoked up and got plain old Lucky love.
My 2 prong non digital ph crappy reader died on me in middle of feeding so ph at the moment is unknown, just ordered drmeter ph pen.
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Hello friends, a quick update. I'm getting more curling down on more plants, been feeding pretty aggressively so hoping for nutes lock out. A flush was scheduled for this week end, fingers crossed. Did a little trimming and plucking to air them out which in hindsight if they were already stressed I should have waited. Thoughts?
cleaned up some of the mess I had left last night. No signs of thrips. Played them tabla beat science, they were jamming... good night everyone sweet green and purple dreams...
Hello friends, a quick update. I'm getting more curling down on more plants, been feeding pretty aggressively so hoping for nutes lock out. A flush was scheduled for this week end, fingers crossed. Did a little trimming and plucking to air them out which in hindsight if they were already stressed I should have waited. Thoughts?
cleaned up some of the mess I had left last night. No signs of thrips. Played them tabla beat science, they were jamming... good night everyone sweet green and purple dreams...
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Thanks and thanks wattze! Despite the cord disaster I must be slightly OCD as well cuz measuring and placing those lights for max coverage were a serious work of patience and stubbornness!
Re curling. Lights are 24" away from tops, manufacturer recommended for veg. Here's what I got on this plant today. I'm not alarmed yet but definitely keeping a close eyeball on it
Thanks and thanks wattze! Despite the cord disaster I must be slightly OCD as well cuz measuring and placing those lights for max coverage were a serious work of patience and stubbornness!
Re curling. Lights are 24" away from tops, manufacturer recommended for veg. Here's what I got on this plant today. I'm not alarmed yet but definitely keeping a close eyeball on it
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LuckyAcres
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You thinking nutes lock out too?
LuckyAcres
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The ph reader crapped out, drmeter ph pen arrived today so I'll know more tonight. I think my feeding has been pretty agressive but haven't had anyone with more experience look at it(not sure what rules or ethics are regarding sharing info like this on this site, haven't seen anyone doing it). But that's why I'm thinking flushing might be needed this week end. I'll update after ph reading later today.
NebulaHaze
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Could it possibly have a nitrogen toxicity?
LuckyAcres
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Thanks for checking in Nebula and wattze. Last night was a series of light bulb moments while sitting on the couch, which made me run back to the shed a couple of times to help fix my problems.
Thrips. After watching a couple of them fly out of the clone pots, first light bulb came on(albeit an hour later) and I removed the pots out of the space all together, they were for a friend but told him better get rid of them, it's not worth it. No signs of the bastards this morning, still planning on second spray with spinosad next week. just in case.
PH. boy oh boy was the light flickering in my bulb... gonna be walking around with post its glued to my forehead for a while. Note to self, do not use the nute mix on your plants if halfway thru mixing your products you start wondering if the ph meter is broken. if you keep on adding ph down and the arrow doesn't move, discard all that crap! and the reader! New reader arrived yesterday and the soil ph is at the moment down to 5 or 4.5 depending on the depth!!!!
Curling. 3rd light bulb, 3rd run outside. Went out and flushed the plant that was curling, gave it tons of water last night and this morning the leaves have perked up quite a bit, right decision. ph at 5.5.
Solution to my various problems.
Thrips are dealt with and have ongoing treatment plan.
To deal with ph and N toxicity (thanks nebula and wattze for putting a name on it!) I plan on flushing all the plants with ph water at 6.5. Then test the soil but I'm not really sure whats next if the ph is still too low. They'll be due for watering or feeding today or tomorrow, I'd love to keep on pushing them but don't want to burn them either.
The diet i feed them is a mix of advanced nutrients and emerald harvest products, we were in the midst of switching from one to the other brand when the association fell a part, felt like I had to use the leftovers advanced and decided to play a little dr frankenstein by mixing both brands. I was not supervised in my defense.
I'm also realizing that my excitement to be part of this forum probably got me over posting, gonna try real hard to limit it to pbs arising or feeding days. I just can't help it, my wife can only handle so much geekiness and I need other ears!!
Thrips. After watching a couple of them fly out of the clone pots, first light bulb came on(albeit an hour later) and I removed the pots out of the space all together, they were for a friend but told him better get rid of them, it's not worth it. No signs of the bastards this morning, still planning on second spray with spinosad next week. just in case.
PH. boy oh boy was the light flickering in my bulb... gonna be walking around with post its glued to my forehead for a while. Note to self, do not use the nute mix on your plants if halfway thru mixing your products you start wondering if the ph meter is broken. if you keep on adding ph down and the arrow doesn't move, discard all that crap! and the reader! New reader arrived yesterday and the soil ph is at the moment down to 5 or 4.5 depending on the depth!!!!
Curling. 3rd light bulb, 3rd run outside. Went out and flushed the plant that was curling, gave it tons of water last night and this morning the leaves have perked up quite a bit, right decision. ph at 5.5.
Solution to my various problems.
Thrips are dealt with and have ongoing treatment plan.
To deal with ph and N toxicity (thanks nebula and wattze for putting a name on it!) I plan on flushing all the plants with ph water at 6.5. Then test the soil but I'm not really sure whats next if the ph is still too low. They'll be due for watering or feeding today or tomorrow, I'd love to keep on pushing them but don't want to burn them either.
The diet i feed them is a mix of advanced nutrients and emerald harvest products, we were in the midst of switching from one to the other brand when the association fell a part, felt like I had to use the leftovers advanced and decided to play a little dr frankenstein by mixing both brands. I was not supervised in my defense.
I'm also realizing that my excitement to be part of this forum probably got me over posting, gonna try real hard to limit it to pbs arising or feeding days. I just can't help it, my wife can only handle so much geekiness and I need other ears!!
Wattze
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That makes two of us, my friend! My wife will listen to me ramble forever, but I won't do that to her lol and as far as checking your shed when the ideas pop up, that's exactly me!! I'm constantly thinking about the next best thing for them lol
Nice job in your flush! I doubt that the Runoff would still be below 5 if you continue flushing at 6.5.. once ya corrected, she should stay perfectly fine 😊
The way I look at it, now that you've been checking the PH (the actual PH) you'll be good bro lol and like I said, your setup is freaking awesome, I'd love to dedicate an entire shed to my grow space 😅 But for right now, I just have my tent the next room over lol
Nice job in your flush! I doubt that the Runoff would still be below 5 if you continue flushing at 6.5.. once ya corrected, she should stay perfectly fine 😊
The way I look at it, now that you've been checking the PH (the actual PH) you'll be good bro lol and like I said, your setup is freaking awesome, I'd love to dedicate an entire shed to my grow space 😅 But for right now, I just have my tent the next room over lol