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Grow Journal - First Grow. part way through

Bootsy

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I'm gonna start a journal, and am going to try using photos from the start, so it will be somewhat complete. Hope this is OK, but this first post I will get wordy so anybody interested will know where I'm coming from. I have previously put other specific questions in other threads to get help, but now realize a journal will be useful. I am now at 7 weeks from planting with my first grow. The plants seem to be doing well.
I think the actual planting day was 14 Nov.
This grow was pretty much a snap decision brought on by a second hand purchase of tent, 300W LED light, exhaust fan with variable speed, charcoal filter (used for one grow only) hangers, timer, and a few miscellaneous things for $275 Cdn. Then I started reading up, and decided it would be fun, and at a minimal cost of the seeds, I should just do it, and if it goes bad - I would learn. So - seeds started. Then I found out from a trade show about Sohum Living Soil, that purportedly wouldn't need and nutrients, and being lazy decided to go with that stuff. Pricey - around $40Cdn per bag, and i ended up using 1 .3 bags.

3 by 3 by 5 ft tent,
300w LED with 3w diodes (no brand name, but with a flowering switch) used till 7 weeks but now using a metal halide 600W digital set-up which is set at 60% after first day of use.
4 inch exhaust fan with VFD and filter
3 gallon fabric pots, Sohum living soil and coco. no nutrients at all (yet)
used Nebula's method of manifolding
4 plants from seed. Blueberry, White Rhino, Critical Widow, Cinderella 99.

I will apologize for the first photos, as i didnt think of using flas till reading later.
1. The first photo is from 18 Nov. I had started 5 seeds, but the Ob-Wan Kush didn't make it (not sure what happened) . Ends up just as well, since even with four my tent is crowded. Oops.
2. Second photo is a week later. I had by now decided to use the living soil, but only had some samples to start - so to fill the pots i had, I put coco coir 1 inch thick all around and bottom, then filled with the soil. I had ordered the soil which was expected to take 3 weeks.
3. Third photo is 1 Dec for the group of 4, and next is a photo from that day. this is where I realized how cold and dry it was in my basement. leaves were not quite right, but soon after adding humidity and an oil heater inside the tent, things went better.
4. fourth photo is of one of the plants on 1 Dec. they all looked very similar. I also at this point switched to a lower wattage (49w) from the 300W as I read about light damage and got scared it might be causing a little yellowing. I got my soil and re-potted them 2 Dec. I put 1.5 inches coco on the bottom of the pots, and around the sides as well - based on a friend"s recommendation (he has since proven to not be as expert as he claimed)
5. fifth photo is of the group on Dec 9, so they are just under 4 weeks old, and have been in the 3 gallon pots for a week. I trimmed em back two days earlier on 7 Dec, to follow Nebula's method, as I had been doing quite a bit of research. At this point, from my research, it appears mine are a fair amount behind what many others get - but they look healthy. I did post to another forum and was told i trimmed way to early, but again they look healthy.

More later. Thanks if you took the time to read.
 

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Plants look good. Your equipment list is good. The led light will be awesome for vegging the plants. Most led lights make sturdy plants, with out much stretch. The 600 will be badass for flower, but the tent may not be tall enough. I had a 400 in a 2x4x5 and heat from the light was sometimes a problem. If that 600 is aircooled you may be fine, if it's adjustable power that's real nice. You are off to a great start.
 
Next succession. First photo is 15 Dec. the plants seem to be doing well, and i have no real issues except that from looking on-line I am sorta in the middle as far as progress compared to others. By now I have the temperatures pretty good around 26-27 thru day and only a couple degrees lower at night. So far I haven't been using the exhaust fan as there doesn't seem to be a need and there is not much smell.
Next photo is on Christmas day. By now I have found out I will be leaving town for work for at least three months. Trying to convince my wife to look after them, and from now on will be trying to automate and get things ready for her. I am daily trying to move stuff around to make even spacing as I have read and seen on tutorials.
Next 5 photos are of each plant on 31 Dec and two of the critical Widow, just to give perspective from top. They are looking healthy to me, but the smell is now noticeable, and i have had to turn on the ventilation. The cold basement air now is chilling the plants, so I had to add a heater to the adjacent room (now even in daytime i have the light, a 35oW heater inside the tent full on, and 750 in the room containing the tent. Some advice from this forum made the decision to change to an HID light obvious. It would give off heat, potentially letting me turn of heaters in the daytime, and likely a better grow light. another cost that I didn't plan for, but I am enjoying this, so it will be something I will use in the future anyway. And the LED has proven to work so might be of use in the future.
One note - my clamp on circulation fan fell right on Cinderella, and also hit blueberry. they looked pretty damaged, but recovered within hours - BOY - these girls are hardy!
 

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So. As i read more, i noticed that the first three weeks of 12:12 include the growing spurt, which will be pretty intensive keeping growth in control. don't want to stress my wife out and have her give up, so I started the process while I am still home - likely for another 3 weeks. With exhaust fan, humidity is now between 20 and 25. I have been doing training and trimming to keep themn somewhat clear. Some concern about White Rhino being so small and bushy, but - it will be what it will be - and she is likely the prettiest of the plants. Now it is becoming obvious that 4 plants in this little tent will require significant monitoring and training. Uh-oh!
Photos are from 3 Jan. White Rhino on its own, and a crappy shot of the 4. keeping them trained is gonna really challenge this newbie. now glad I started while i am still here. Trimmed em back quite a bit this day. Waiting for my new light.
 

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Hey Bootsy, love your journal ,your doing a great job with your plants, Yeah, its gonna get a little crowded in there, some plants get huge even with training, some dont. But that's how you learn. I'm catching hell with the low humidity an young plants too.
 
Next update, which includes photos from yesterday, which was the first day of the new light. I just switched it to new the light system, with the Metal Halide bulb to start, and set it on 50% to start yesterday. The heater (on timer to be on when light is off) kept the tent around 20C last night, and today i put the light to 75%. The tent temp seems to be stabilized around 24.5C (right now. Humiditiy seems to be staying around 25%. I think this is not bad??
The photos, which i also have in the infirmary forum on another thread, are first a team shot of the ladies. 2nd photo is of the sinister but majestic Cinderella 99 , who seems as if she will be the biggest challenge to keep fitting in the tent. Next photo is the sweet Critical Widow, who took the brunt of my circulating fan falling on her, but came back fast. The next photo shows my actual favourite, the full figured but tiny White Rhino followed by the lovely Miss Blueberry. All seem to be very tolerant of my abuse. Now I'm up to date. Gotta go check on the ladies. More later.
 

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yeah, i definitely am worried about height. especially since it will be my wife looking after them. I hope to convince her to use this forum.
 
I might have missed it but it sounds like height is a concern for you and only noticed mention of the MH bulb. There is an article on the site by Sirius in ways to limit stretch you might want to check out. One as I recall was leaving the MH bulb in during the first few weeks of flower and not switching to the HPS bulb, the red in it encourages the stretching apparently.
 
No problem I’m just getting to the end of my first grow if it wasn’t for the site and some very helpful people on here I’m positive I would’ve killed them by now lol
 
Another day. I am home sick for the third day, so have time to play with the girls again. Photos dont show much change, but they all look pretty good to me and are a brighter green under the new light. I am daily tying them back and removing leaves that are not seeing light. i will keep training them back, and do believe I have to remove the little side brances (tiny colas) that are coming off the main branches - there just wont be room for everything and I want to make sure the main colas are treated as well as possible. I have noticed that where the tent getsw pulled in by ventilation, that where it touches the leaves, they sort of wilt. under 18 outside the tent at night.
the temperatures have stabilized at around 25C in day with light on (30% rh), and 20C at night with the little heater on in the tent.
Three Questions - my clip on fans keep falling off since the tent is so tight to the poles. 1. Has anyone figured out a method of connection to the poles in a tent.?
2. Should I trim back the "suckers" that i won't be letting bud now, or at three weeks flowering?
3. I have been looking for article on how to limit stretch as mentioned above by Locrian99, but no luck so far. Looking for suggestions so that I am ready if it is a big problem. ??

As an aside, I just tried White Rhino from elsewhere - and I now really really want that plant to produce. Yummmmm!
 

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Morning Bootsy, those are some pretty colored plants,nice, don't be scared to remove those small tips an branches, they are no good at all. I live down South an our weather has been bad for growing to, especially since mine are young, at least your plants are older an can handle the weather better. Yours look nice.Good job.
 
That really is a beautiful shade of green.

You could wrap a strip of tape around your light clips to the poles, or hang them from the top and let the clips hold the fans still, pointed in the right direction.
 
thanks. yeah, I think i will try taping it. and i am heading down to trim those little branches. everything i have read indicates i don't want those in my restricted little tent this time.
 
You will get much applause and support, and relatively little discouragement about trimming and defoliating from this crowd! I'm getting close to the end a grow that I wish I took more of the smaller, lower branches. There are so many colas that I can't count them (too stoned), that I'm sure if I pruned more, her colas would have filled out much bigger.
 
Wow, once i started looking, there's a lot of information out there about limiting stretch. and some conflicting. Things that seems to make the most sense 1. high levels of light, 2. blue light (such as MH), 3. reducing temperature differential of night and day during stretch period). Now I know why MH was recommended for veg and HPS for flowering. I will see what i can do there regarding night temps. There are also chemicals and additives, but I have avoided everything so far, so that's out. Unless I hear or read otherwise in the next day, I think i will leave the MH for a couple more weeks and have increased it to 100% (prior at 75%) and see if I can still regulate the temperature. I Will also put a heater in the adjacent room tonight to raise the night temp for the next couple of weeks (thus minimizing the night-day differential).

I should note that this is my first grow, and I am not even sure I will have a problem, but must be as ready as possible for my time away. CURRENT MEASUREMENTS - the highest I can raise the light is another 12 inches, and i can lower any of the plants 1 inch by taking it off the golf balls underneath them. the total height of the biggest plant is (for manifolded plant= height + width) = 15 inches. The height of the light from the upper plant sites is = 15 inches. this is at 8 weeks, after 1 week of 12:12 lighting. More photos tonight, i think.
 
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