SOIL Grow journal 📓 2021

[Rwise]

I see this with clones too, I either let them flower or up the light to 16-20 hours and in 2 weeks they reveg.
I dont think what you were told will work, would be an interesting test. Heres my luck, I reveged a flowering clone, got 2 limbs on her and went to trim the "bud" out and cut off both limbs. She has forgiven me and grew more.
Good luck!

 

[SoOrbudgal]

If you keep them under 20-4 ( on-off ) they'll stop. Don't give them " lots of nitrogen " they just need longer sunlight or lamps.

 

[amy24]

That’s what I was thinking too... lots of nitrogen? I was like what if I burn them? After reading lots and seeing your responses it really does come down to light hey? I don’t have a light so I guess lesson learned for next year?

 

[amy24]

Agreed, my crazy impulsive self wanted to do it right away but I thought hmmm that doesn’t make a lot of sense... I think I will let them flower, maybe do some LST to try to get some big buds and just see what happens! Take it as a learning experience not to get clones until may or June thanks for your help!

 

[amy24]

Also thank you for being there for me!!!! ❤️

 

[amy24]

Sorry if I post way too much but had to share my experiment. I told my husband I was just going to leave them but he insisted I should try his friend’s idea. So I decided to sacrifice the smaller one to science. It’s a win-win, my husband can be proven wrong or if he’s right, I could get more buds, who knows? A friend said he could still give me another clone, and this is better timing. I’ve got that one I started going too, it’s worth a try to satisfy my curiosity! I don’t know if I should have left more or less of the budding area but I tried to cut most of it away. Also tied them down, these totes are awesome cus they have all these little holes perfectly spaced for tying. I got some soft Velcro ties I got on sale at end of last season, used those to make little loops around the branch then used twine to tie the loop to the holes on the totes. We shall see!

 

[amy24]

It’s a funny experiment, pretty sure I took one for the team but we will see what ends up happening. At least I can tell my husband he was wrong! The experimental clones are both growing bigger, the non-pinched one is way happier just as it always was but the one with the pinched off buds just looks kinda sad. The ones in the ground are super happy! I have a bunch of stuff that needs to be cut out or pulled out in the garden right now - mint, borage, etc that I will cut up to make more mulch and add to the compost tumbler. I’ve been watering with the liquid tomato food about once a week. I still need to do some training on the one in the garden that I want to train to grow a bit more horizontal so it stays below my fence. My dog knocked over my clone and it died so will try to get another to make up for the experiment.

 

[jacoby37]

Very nice plants...they are really shaping up!

 

[SoOrbudgal]

amy24 that looks great and very healthy. I love mixing flowers an herbs in the garden. Yep when those start shooting up later on in summer just pull them over tie the main colas down and away from center. And just like indoor when i get too much under growth i cut off the spindly little under shoots cause you get alot on clones i've found.

 

[amy24]

SoOrbudgal thank you so much!!! I was thinking of taking a bunch of the bottom stuff off this year. I always hold on to it and then am so mad I did when I’m trimming. So you don’t remove any of it before you tie it down? I don't want to defoliate too much or too little, I guess just like anything, it’s a learning process!

 

[SoOrbudgal]

amy24 there's lots of time to remove shoots. Just a few at a time before tieing down main cola. Anything that looks to be touching the dirt after tieing down remove that underneith. There will come a point just like indoor photos they'll quit producing leaf an side shoots an focus on bud site growth but it's a long process i get 4 months to work with my outdoor bud sites setting. Ya get what i'm saying? Your gonna be making adjustments ie: tieing, pinning down branches putting cages for support or stakes along side them. Just like a big tomatoe they'll need support from wind or elements.

 

[amy24]

You’re the best! Thanks for all your help!

 

[amy24]

Ok, I know this post is way too soon after my last abd I could be getting borderline annoying 😉 but just wanted to add the pics after thinning out the garden a bit, adding new mulch and the 4-4-4 meal mix and some diatomaceous earth, and tying them down. I also cleared a lot of the bottom stuff off of the clone in flowering. It was so hard to rip off those little buds, but I’m glad I did! The sad clone that I removed the buds off of still looks sad, we will see if it rebounds!

 

[amy24]

PS. The clone that is flowering - I’m adding old oak leaves to my mulch. I read on the mulching article from this site to use green mulch for veg, brown mulch for flowering. Green produces bacteria for nitrogen and brown produces fungi for the other stuff

 

[amy24]

Saw some posts on here about plants that go into reveg producing funny rounded leaves. Think my clones are starting a round of the funny round leaves, maybe they will shoot up again? Right now it seems like they are just getting bushier rather than taller but maybe as we get closer to summer solstice they will take off. We shall see!

 

[SoOrbudgal]

Some of my clones are looking like that. My seed plants do not. Yes those will return to normal oh they will take off unless they get eaten by a critter too much.

 

[amy24]

Ten days after tying them down, you can see all the new growth and the new future kola sites that are developing and reaching for the light. It’s mind blowing that it’s only been ten days! Since I tied the branches back using Velcro, I moved the stakes a bit further and bent them further back. Also topped both sides of the one that has had two tops the whole time, have started calling it my “two-pronger” but now it’s going to multiply! Still been adding the liquid fertilizer about once a week, always making sure to wait for when the plants need a big water - then I can make sure everything is well watered before applying the liquid fertilizer - this helps it all soak into the soil instead of running off and away from my plants. Also cut off some lowers branches so have a bunch of new clones on the go. I cut them, put them straight in water, then trimmed them, dipped them in rooting powder, then put them in water by a sunny window. Been following Nenula Haze’s guide to rooting clones in water. After a couple days I switched out the water and adding the smallest amount of fertilizer - just rinsed out the lid and added a little drop. Tried putting the tops into jiffy pellets, covered with a makeshift cover after another article on here by Mr Green. All to see if it will work, will save one or two and pass on the rest if they actually work haha. Feeling excited!

 

[amy24]

It’s been 13 days since my last post... Since then, I’ve done another layer of dry meal mix/powder and mulch (chopped up borage, lavender, mint, dandelions, oregano, yarrow, etc) and have continued to do the liquid organic 7-3-5 every second water or so. It’s been a while and the plants are bigger so been making it a bit stronger. I am surprised by how fast the mulch breaks down, I could be doing a layer every week but I’m a bit too lazy And they are super happy so not too worried... They are getting huge! I’ve spread the branches out more and the centres of the plant are just shooting right up and filling out. I bent the tallest branches over til they were almost pointing down the other day and by the next day you couldn’t even tell, it has turned itself right back up again. Just need to be slow and careful to make sure you don’t break a branch off....it’s started growing past the dirt area of my garden so I filled a pot with a bunch of rocks and a big stick and have it tied to that! Hoping I can get to a lattice to see what that would be like! 😂

Side note if you’ve read the whole journal, just going to plant my asparagus seedlings now! Going to put them along a border that is between my weed plants and the road because apparently the ferns grow pretty tall? So maybe a bit of extra coverage will be a bonus

One clone took off and made roots in the water by the window but a few others just started rotting. I have that one in a red solo cup in soil now and have just started putting her outside. I have one other clone going and it has produced so many of those little white dots but they just won’t grow into roots! Any suggestions??? Or do I just need to be patient...

Happy Summer everyone!

 

[SoOrbudgal]

yes i don't know why but when i get those little white knobs they will root good in soil so just stick it in a soil cup like the other. We had asparagus growing from some roots that must of got washed out somewhere up river and settled on a bank near our property. It gave us a handful at a time for couple years then they disappeared i can't find them anymore. Boy those last for years an years once established. Hey amy24 if that stem is too long with the nubs on it you could cut abit off the bottom to fit in a solo cup of soil. Garden looks great

 

[amy24]

SoOrbudgal Thank you so much! With all the sun and heat everything has been thriving! I appreciate the advice too I went ahead and put it in the soil tonight, so fingers crossed it works! 🤞 I cut some of the bottom off like you said, then gently filled the soil around it, then watered it with the water it has been hanging out in. Do you think I should trim back any of the leaves? Asparagus transplant was successful too, three years until we eat any tho. Can’t wait haha.