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Gifted 2 mystery plants with issues, need help!
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GreenAlchemist
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I’ll see if I can locate it on amazon ca. Couldn’t find it locally unfortunately.
Building up a good “pest prevention†shelf to use in the future as well, as PM can also be spotted outside in my new yard. Super nervous about it because I just moved here last month and my previous grow room / house was free of sooo many pests/fungi. Taking some getting used to with all the new steps/preventative measures
Building up a good “pest prevention†shelf to use in the future as well, as PM can also be spotted outside in my new yard. Super nervous about it because I just moved here last month and my previous grow room / house was free of sooo many pests/fungi. Taking some getting used to with all the new steps/preventative measures
GreenAlchemist
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Humidity has been around 30-40% and only spikes higher to 50-60% for about 20 minutes or so after a watering/Foliar spray and back down to mid 30’s after that. Agreed, Definitely looking into a larger dehumidifier! Lol, Don’t want to have those sharp jumps after for too long
GreenAlchemist
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Update:
Just finished doing a Foliar spray with apple cider vinegar.
Sprayed up, down, in and out, drenched them and then gave them a light shake after to get any heavy excess liquid off the leaves.
Noticed a couple spots coming back again on the “WCâ€, but the smaller “GOD†plant is still PM and thrip free. So I’m thinking of setting up a 3x3 tent across the room to separate them, and see if giving them each their own space with adequate airflow and space to thrive will help.
(by now I fear it will be a little too crowded and lop sided with them both stretching and flowering in one. I want to have a good even canopy)
Will continue to treat, and spray until the flip. Did some research and found that diffusing tea tree essential oil can help kill PM or other fungi in the air or on any surfaces it contacts. Going to purchase a diffuser and set it outside the tent to diffuse and hope it helps. (I should note I will be using a diffuser and not a humidifier, as I do not want to raise the Rh%)
Just finished doing a Foliar spray with apple cider vinegar.
Sprayed up, down, in and out, drenched them and then gave them a light shake after to get any heavy excess liquid off the leaves.
Noticed a couple spots coming back again on the “WCâ€, but the smaller “GOD†plant is still PM and thrip free. So I’m thinking of setting up a 3x3 tent across the room to separate them, and see if giving them each their own space with adequate airflow and space to thrive will help.
(by now I fear it will be a little too crowded and lop sided with them both stretching and flowering in one. I want to have a good even canopy)
Will continue to treat, and spray until the flip. Did some research and found that diffusing tea tree essential oil can help kill PM or other fungi in the air or on any surfaces it contacts. Going to purchase a diffuser and set it outside the tent to diffuse and hope it helps. (I should note I will be using a diffuser and not a humidifier, as I do not want to raise the Rh%)
alltatup
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Hi Alchie, I'm rooting for you and the girls. Leaf transpiration can be rough in vegetation because they get so leafy so fast. I'm always a little bit on tenderhooks during the later stages of vegetation because I always find leaves stuck together and sweating, so I defoliate at that point, and simply tuck various leaves, to keep them from flopping all sweating on top of each other.
So in my environment, which consists of two grow boxes, the goal is to keep them growing nice and strong, but defoliate enough to cut down on the leaf transpiration, which creates a lot of humidity. These are among the challenges of indoor growing.
So in my environment, which consists of two grow boxes, the goal is to keep them growing nice and strong, but defoliate enough to cut down on the leaf transpiration, which creates a lot of humidity. These are among the challenges of indoor growing.
GreenAlchemist
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Update:
Some changes in the grow room were made.
I figured my best way to kick PM’s ass is to split the plants up in separate tents. (The idea is to keep them from transferring it to one another, and giving them both adequate airflow)
“WC†is in the 4x4 still with more room to grow, and the “GOD†is in the 3x3 filling it out nicely. Had to re-adjust the trellis net and add another to the 3x3, and get everything settled and ready for the flip. Sprayed again last night with sodium bicarbonate (baking soda). Will continue to spray, but also looking into spraying with pure tea tree oil mixed in water (I’m still researching this method, but reading great results! Anyone try this? I’d love to hear how it’s worked for you or any feedback, as there isn’t much on it yet in forums)
Some of the things I changed:
- More airflow! Picked up 2 more fans, one that oscillates and hits the canopy well. (No more stale spots!)
- Essential oil diffuser (with 100% pure tea tree oil, 5 drops per 500ml of water).
- larger dehumidifier
feeling better about them now that I’ve crossed my T’s and dotted my I’s. Any tips or thoughts are always welcome!!
also..
alltatup Also put my AC unit in there and just noticed it has a Dehumidifier setting! Much better than the dinkies I have going currently. Going to find the manual and go through/set it up. Thanks for making me think about Rh% and a better dehu! Really appreciate the advice *thumbs up*
Some changes in the grow room were made.
I figured my best way to kick PM’s ass is to split the plants up in separate tents. (The idea is to keep them from transferring it to one another, and giving them both adequate airflow)
“WC†is in the 4x4 still with more room to grow, and the “GOD†is in the 3x3 filling it out nicely. Had to re-adjust the trellis net and add another to the 3x3, and get everything settled and ready for the flip. Sprayed again last night with sodium bicarbonate (baking soda). Will continue to spray, but also looking into spraying with pure tea tree oil mixed in water (I’m still researching this method, but reading great results! Anyone try this? I’d love to hear how it’s worked for you or any feedback, as there isn’t much on it yet in forums)
Some of the things I changed:
- More airflow! Picked up 2 more fans, one that oscillates and hits the canopy well. (No more stale spots!)
- Essential oil diffuser (with 100% pure tea tree oil, 5 drops per 500ml of water).
- larger dehumidifier
feeling better about them now that I’ve crossed my T’s and dotted my I’s. Any tips or thoughts are always welcome!!
also..
alltatup Also put my AC unit in there and just noticed it has a Dehumidifier setting! Much better than the dinkies I have going currently. Going to find the manual and go through/set it up. Thanks for making me think about Rh% and a better dehu! Really appreciate the advice *thumbs up*
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GreenAlchemist
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Update:
Losing the battle, not looking so promising.
PM has some back on several newer fan leaves, even with all the extra airflow, dry air, stable environment and spraying every night (literally every night, different solutions) it’s still thriving.
I’m pretty bummed out I couldn’t rid it, and now I’ve just located a red spider mite in the tent after leaf washing/pluckinng.. bugger!!
only method I haven’t tried is wettable sulphur, or neem oil..
would it even be worth it at this point?
Debating just trashing them and giving the whole room a cleaning overhaul. what a nightmare! I have to think about the 4 healthy happy plants I have, and move on I think.
will update on end decision, still debating my options currently, but looking more and more like just restarting with stable/healthy genetics and a thriving environment.
Losing the battle, not looking so promising.
PM has some back on several newer fan leaves, even with all the extra airflow, dry air, stable environment and spraying every night (literally every night, different solutions) it’s still thriving.
I’m pretty bummed out I couldn’t rid it, and now I’ve just located a red spider mite in the tent after leaf washing/pluckinng.. bugger!!
only method I haven’t tried is wettable sulphur, or neem oil..
would it even be worth it at this point?
Debating just trashing them and giving the whole room a cleaning overhaul. what a nightmare! I have to think about the 4 healthy happy plants I have, and move on I think.
will update on end decision, still debating my options currently, but looking more and more like just restarting with stable/healthy genetics and a thriving environment.
UndergroundFarmer
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I know how that feels. After years of no-problem hydro, it seems I can't get anything to thrive there but my coco grows can't fail. I had to move my Blueberry grow to coco to keep all but one of them alive. My Tangie grow may eventually have to go that way too. It's times like these that having a good stash built up smooths over these bumpy times. A massive Purple Haze harvest in the middle of this fight preserved my sanity.
If you try neem oil, spray just before lights out. Don't make the same mistake I made once and burn what's left of your plants!
If you try neem oil, spray just before lights out. Don't make the same mistake I made once and burn what's left of your plants!
alltatup
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GreenAlchemist You've read this, right? https://www.growweedeasy.com/cannabis-plant-problems/white-powdery-mildew
I am very sorry to hear wpm is back. Shoot, you have really tried to save those girls.
I am very sorry to hear wpm is back. Shoot, you have really tried to save those girls.
Neem not on buds!
I used a pricey product called "Trifecta Crop Control", it is all natural, and claims to be safe all the way to harvest. It made no flavor change that I could tell in my finished buds. It worked for me, saved my crop
What is the RH of your grow? Molds like warm moist air, I have this going on myself with plants in veg, I just cut it out and trim for air flow, good luck!
I used a pricey product called "Trifecta Crop Control", it is all natural, and claims to be safe all the way to harvest. It made no flavor change that I could tell in my finished buds. It worked for me, saved my crop
What is the RH of your grow? Molds like warm moist air, I have this going on myself with plants in veg, I just cut it out and trim for air flow, good luck!
SoOrbudgal
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I would just work the healthy ones to keep them that way.
GreenAlchemist
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I’ll give that a read, thanks for the suggestion!
My Rh stays below 40%, but does spike to 50 for a half hour after foliar sprays. Other than that everything is pretty dialled in, awesome airflow, between 27 - 30C, outtake fan etc. I’ve been keepin up on clipping, but the new growth isn’t as protected as the older I sprayed, gotta fix that!
My Rh stays below 40%, but does spike to 50 for a half hour after foliar sprays. Other than that everything is pretty dialled in, awesome airflow, between 27 - 30C, outtake fan etc. I’ve been keepin up on clipping, but the new growth isn’t as protected as the older I sprayed, gotta fix that!
GreenAlchemist
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Thanks all for the comments suggestions! I decided against neem oil, but did pick up some wettable sulphur powder, this will be my last shot at getting them healthy to flip.
If this won’t do it, there’s no way I’ll get healthy/smokable buds with PM, and will clip/scrap plants to protect the next generation to come.
Will post results shortly!
If this won’t do it, there’s no way I’ll get healthy/smokable buds with PM, and will clip/scrap plants to protect the next generation to come.
Will post results shortly!
GreenAlchemist
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GreenAlchemist
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Update time:
We’re down, but we’re not out! Final shot at nuking PM.
Used wettable sulphur:
mixed 1 TBSP to 1L of water and sprayed/drenched everything.
Stalks, leaves (under and over) nodes, even putting the sprayer inside and twisting it in every direction to make sure we have 100% coverage with the solution.
(side note: wore protective goggles and HEPA mask, don’t want to get this stuff on/inside me, if you choose to spray sulphur like me, remember to wear your PPE)
Will wait one week and spray again to get full coverage on the new growth as well.
what a nightmare.. but honestly, really hoping to make this successful, and to make this a learning experience for anyone who wants to on GWE
We’re down, but we’re not out! Final shot at nuking PM.
Used wettable sulphur:
mixed 1 TBSP to 1L of water and sprayed/drenched everything.
Stalks, leaves (under and over) nodes, even putting the sprayer inside and twisting it in every direction to make sure we have 100% coverage with the solution.
(side note: wore protective goggles and HEPA mask, don’t want to get this stuff on/inside me, if you choose to spray sulphur like me, remember to wear your PPE)
Will wait one week and spray again to get full coverage on the new growth as well.
what a nightmare.. but honestly, really hoping to make this successful, and to make this a learning experience for anyone who wants to on GWE
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alltatup
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GreenAlchemist This kind of experience is good for growers. We learn a lot about the environment we are working in, and how we need to tweak things to avoid the problem in the future. I totally respect how hard you have worked with these girls.
GreenAlchemist
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Update:
sprayed again last night with sulphur - to cover the new foliage that grew in.
brewing a compost tea tonight, and then top dressing amendments tomorrow to get ready for the flip!! Booyah!
environment has been doing awesome, and haven’t seen anything Mildew-ey, just a sulphur coat.
almost there..almost..
can’t wait to see how it goes!!! Like Christmas in July lol.
sprayed again last night with sulphur - to cover the new foliage that grew in.
brewing a compost tea tonight, and then top dressing amendments tomorrow to get ready for the flip!! Booyah!
environment has been doing awesome, and haven’t seen anything Mildew-ey, just a sulphur coat.
almost there..almost..
can’t wait to see how it goes!!! Like Christmas in July lol.