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HYDRO Getting the most of my crops?

Growersam418

Growersam418

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Hello growers! First of all, I must say that I am grateful for being a part of such an awesome community! Im really glad I came across this website while doing some research on deep water culture, I found an encyclopedia for growers!

That being said, Im a newbie to the hydroponics I already grown weed In the past but all this is really new to me! (it was bunk closet weed grown with a cheapo sodium lamp don’t judge me I was 15 or so:funny:) So I figured out the best way (in my opinion) to do so is by building a Recirculating DWC.

I’m actually building a 4-plants setup in a 96x48x80” tent.
considering a 10ton 3x5 dabpress (any advice on rosin making, temps, pressure for different materials, recommended bags, folding methods is appreciated)

Please consider that I’m not a pro grower any advice/tip is most appreciated.

I did my homework I know where I want to go and what I want to do. Im just confused right now by all the amount of information I recently assimilated and I’m seeking advice of the more experienced
  • Any advice on wich lights I could consider? (LED or MH/HPS)(wattage vs power/heat)
  • Im considering doing a “main lining training” is this something I should avoid for a first time in Hydroponics?
  • Is bubble hash or dry ice hash better for doing hash rosin?
Im considering doing extracts with my harvests, any tips on what should I do to GET THE MOST OF MY HARVEST? (Ex: pressing the buds into rosin themselves and process the trim into bubble/dry ice hash and then press this also, or should I just process all the buds and trim into bubble/dry ice hash rosin?)
I read somewhere that there is some sort of algorithm for how much pressure is needed is this a legit algorithm;

"Optimal Pressure = Pounds(lbs) / Plate surface area(square inch)"
ex: A 10-ton press = 20,000 lbs. If you have a 3"x5" plate = 15 square inch.
Hence, 20,000/15 = 1,333 PSI


I want that light colored creamy rosin you know what I mean ahaha :tasty: im not much of a flower smoker so I really prefer extracts

I want to thank everyone on this forum for being such a resourceful community and I look forward on reading your thoughts and tips! Im pretty hyped and I’m slowly getting everything set up, I want some big yields hehe :D:D:D

peace everyone!

Growersam418
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Links/References:
Main Lining: https://www.growweedeasy.com/mainlining-nugbuckets
Rosin Press: https://www.dabpress.com/products/3...ne-strongway-hand-pump?variant=19756415778889
Bubble Hash: https://www.growweedeasy.com/cannabis-bubble-hash
Dry Ice Hash: https://www.growweedeasy.com/dry-ice-hash
Pressure ''Algorithm'': https://www.trimleaf.com/blogs/guides/whats-the-best-rosin-press-ultimate-rosin-press-buying-guide
Interesting knowledge about washing hash: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z8PJvOPx8M
Exemple of what I want for the final product (*forward to 10min*): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrxEg9k5G4o
 
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First, welcome. I haven't personally looked into presses or any of that but I have done a little hydro growing. I personally was not having good results because I kept forgetting to check pH levels, nutrient levels were too low, etc. I basically started with a system like that and it worked great for me at first, then I started slacking. I ended up switching to amended soil and I don't think I'll be switching again. I love that all I have to do is water and watch them grow. As far as LED vs HPS/MH, there's pros and cons for both. LEDs run cooler, save electricity and supposedly produces more potent buds. HPS/MH use a lot of electricity, and produce a lot of heat but are good for faster growth and bigger yields. I have tried both and I haven't figured out which I like best yet cause like I said I haven't had the best luck so far. I'm also running a grow with them side by side and just into week 4 of flower. I can say if I had better exhaust and didn't have to worry so much about the electric bill, I'd probably run the HPS light mostly. It really depends on what you can afford to do as well. I was actually looking at the 315W LEC lights but they're a bit pricey for me right now. If price isn't really an issue, may want to look into that too. I have a post with my grow if you're interested to see them side by side. Just so you can see what it looks like here's a picture too. The buds under the HPS light are fattening up faster and seem to have more trichomes, but it could just be the light that brings out the trichomes. Don't mind the little ones in the front 😂
 

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First, Thanks for answering my topic!
I'm considering the MH/HPS for now... altough it is more power consuming/heat producing, where I live the electricity is included in the rent though, adding a 600W HPS could get my landlord suspicious? I feel like this is more of a ''natural light" and that's why I'd love to go with that but I'm affraid to crank up the power bill too much...
Keep in mind that I live in Canada and we are allowed to grow up to 4 plants.
For the caring part I'm pretty much of a meticulous guy I will change my system's water every 2-3weeks, check the PH & Nutrients promptly without any problem, I really like the benefits of hydroponics. All the system will be mostly automated I will put the good stuff in the reservoir and voila!

I plan on Training the plants, following a ''main lining'' training I aim to produce from 4 to 8 main colas to boost the yields, defoliating the fan leaves along the grow.
I feel that for this type of growing the HPS may be more suitable, I dont know I really need further advice on that side.
Again I only plan on growing 4 plants so I MUST maximize my yields...
Price Is an issue and at the same time is not, you know what I mean... If I MUST get a specific light for what I seek I will go and spit out the extra bucks.
But if I can save money I will gladly.
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Your crops are looking good pal! have an awesome harvest!
I will update the topic as I progress on my decisions.
 
I'm actually into DWC and rosin! I just upgraded to a new press and platens and I will be looking to extract the nectar of the gods as soon as this grow is done drying. Are you familiar with reddit? They have a subreddit; r/rosin. The best way to learn from that place is to find someone that is documenting their journey. Just look at their post history, they'll have temps, times, pressure, curing, you name it.
 

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Thanks man! I will dig more on that subreddit! Definitely helpful!
Would you mind sharing with us your grow setup? It looks interesting
You crops are looking hella fat brother happy harvest!
 
5 gallon bucket, bubbleponics(DWC) with top feed and water chiller, HLG 550 qb, fan, portable a/c. Looking to add another bucket for next grow. Would love to see your shopping list once you get everything squared away.
 
I used the mainlining technique on all of those plants and it works great! I am also a fan of defoliation and did a heavy one before flower and light ones when I feel like I need to open them up a bit. If your rent is included, then yeah I'd probably say go LED for now if you don't want him catching on. Do you know if he's a smoker or anything? Do you know what his views on it are? If you know he's good with it, you could just let him know what you're doing and tell him you'll pay for the extra electricity. If you don't know how he would feel about it, then it would be risky to say something and I wouldn't suggest it.
 
Of course! Tomorrow, I will put up a complete list of what I’m looking to buy and tell me what you think!
Your setup looks fire, well made friend, looking forward on keeping contact with you as we have similar goals 🙏🏻
 
Oh motivated I am sir! I looked on the subreddit you have told me and damn that is everything I needed within minutes I had found several people detailing their process! I can't thank you enough for this I was lurking the web searching the answers, I guess I may have been too specific on my search because I could have simply search for "Rosin" and probably that subred would have popped first result!

Okay so RFheavy For now I'm just getting started, I already got:
-5x 5Gal Black buckets (4 plants & 1 res)
-Tubing and fittings to setup the DWC

That's it! I'm still at an early stage for now but like I said previously, I did some research and I came up with an Idea of what I will need, though, I still dont know wich type of light I will use CMH, MH/HPS or LED. I am going on a full grow in a single tent I'm still wondering If I use auto seeds or normal feminized seeds I'm looking to get massive quality yields here so I dont really know wich way to go on for now I need further advice on that as well but anyway, here is my complete shopping list for the moment:

Tent: https://www.amazon.ca/-/fr/dp/B07VWN...5087261&sr=8-6

Fan(s) 6" : https://www.ebay.ca/itm/VIVOSUN-4-6-...e52c4ceffdf1b7

Carbon Filter : https://www.ebay.ca/itm/4-5-6-8-10-1....c100009.m1982

Foiled Flexible Duct: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/VIVOSUN-4-6-...O0r7zZLCd0o6Qw

Water pump: https://www.amazon.ca/-/fr/VicTsing-...upplies&sr=1-3

Air Pump: https://www.amazon.ca/Hydrofarm-AAPA...40137967&psc=1

Cooling probe for the reservoir: https://premiumaquatics.com/products...er-supply.html

(I skipped a lot of basic stuff like training clips, timers etc.. you get it)

Now for the rosin part, I am considering getting this press:
https://www.dabpress.com/products/3x...19756415778889

combined with this hand pump:
https://www.dabpress.com/products/da...12395302912073


For washing the hash: https://www.bubblebagdude.co/product...-bags-all-mesh

Im considering doing Dry sift with my trims, using dry ice, then pressing the drysift itself into hash rosin, I will look deeper into the subreddit for that part...

I think that sums everything pretty much, tell me what do you think! I am open to any advice!

Peace friend !
 
Looks good so far. You can buy the bubble bags for $20-$30 and buy a seperate bucket for under $10. Dab press is a pretty reputable brand for rosin presses. You will definitely be getting decent returns per grams spent once you figure out the technique. For dry ice hash, there are some pretty informative videos on youtube. I am also going to try pressing dry ice hash when this grow is done so I'll be researching soon. If everything pans out, I'll post on here. The light is the tricky part. There are a lot of variables and unknowns that need to be adressed. Money is also an issue. If you want yield, I highly suggest not going cheap on the light. A strong light backed up with technique will add ounces!
 
Also, I would stick with photoperiod feminized and not autoflowering seeds. You can leave photos in the veg phase to get their size and shape going pretty big!
 
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Cool I will take the advice and go with fem seeds, I will definitely get a good lamp, still need to figure out wich light setup to use, *update* I will grow in a 5’x5’x7’ tent
 
It helps my grow and it heats up my house lol seriously though, I'm actually liking it so far. I can watch the difference between the lights as they grow, and the ones in the middle are getting benefits of both. It will be interesting to see the end result. I'll probably try to keep them separate when I get pictures before harvest that way I can label them. I also have a few ladies that I forgot to put the names back in so I only know for sure what a few of them are. Pretty sure I can figure it out but it would have been nice to make sure I had one of each under each light. Oh well, next time. Into week 4 and they're fattening nicely already with lots of trichomes. Still trying to find the "sweet" spot for the LEDs but it's almost there I think. I'm keeping an updated post with pictures every week or 2 if you're interested. Anyway, happy growing.
 
I found that guy named ottawa.rosin on instagram and he told me about these new quantum boards and he showed me what are his results (1.3 to 1.8 lbs of dried material for a 4plant harvest using a rdwc system)
I know for sure that my landlord doesn’t endorse cannabis because even though it’s legal they mostly prohibit the consumption of marijuana pretty much everywhere (you can’t smoke in public areas, neither in your appartement, so you basically can’t smoke anywhere legally unless you are the owner of your house) so yeah legalization sucked balls here....
I will need to do more research on these quantum boards I keep reading mixed comments about them
 
I actually did some searching on the subreddit /rosin and /flowerrosin and found out a lot of useful information about rosin techniques and some crazy stuff has been made, like the mechanical separation of thc-a crystals I was stunned man! That is a goldmine of information thanks for that! I even found a dude with master tips to give me and he is willing to give me any advice I may need! Ottawa.rosin on instagram go give him a follow! Tell him Growersam418 sent you ahaha I was definitely searching for too specific terms I should have kept it stupid simple right
 
The custom platens that I got for my rosin press were from a guy in Canada. I sent out the bat signal on r/rosin for upgrade ideas and he messaged me.

He linked me to his instagram where he actually did more than just sell me caged platens. He helped me find the right press for the particular sized platens I requested, talked me through setting up and we even shared a few laughs and personal stories. Really nice guy.
This is from his instagram page: https://www.instagram.com/p/B2UdcOQBVQY/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
 

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