Getting a prop off of a blummer ?

[greenforce]

I made the assumption that I had ample cuttings off all my girls before they were given to the blossom. Blossom they did. I have a particularly robust plant that has found my favor. Wanting to focus on this beauty I started through the vedge room looking for her detached self I found there was no clone, no where. Fuska! What the Fuskin Fuska!!! How in the fusking name of all things cannabis did I allow this oversite. Allright, I have cut a low lone mini bud, 3 weeks ago and put it in the dome, a thin airy long stem bud from mid plant 2 weeks ago stripped it of growth and domed it. Both props remain in good color and are supple and flexible to touch. Although I use a soil medium and have no visual on root growth, the props appear stable in the mix as if some rooting may be occuring. Neither prop shows sign of regression or new growth to the eye. Here is my delima. I don't trust the two props I have and this lady is coming of age. So can anybody point me in the direction of some top shelf tutorials on the propagation of late stage flowering plants or perhaps share personal insite. It would be a shame to loose this lemon scented lady to the wind. I welcome all knowledge on the subject. Respectfully G.

 

[RosettaStoned]

Taking a clone during flower is called monster cropping. Keep it alive and it will root and revert back to veg. It takes a while though, a few weeks after it roots. I think you can take one one all the way up to the end of week three. I'm sure others have pushed the envelope with success.
there is a tutorial on taking clones on the GWE site
http://www.growweedeasy.com/cloning-made-easy

 

[KingKush]

Harvest and re-veg

Just don't stalk it when you harvest! Leave the lowest stuff (like 10%)
Re-veg the ol gal and she will reward you with plenty of clones.
Did this to save my Trainwreck strain. It worked fine I just MADE SURE to keep the roots alive (so try not to do any crazy ritual for harvest this time). Keep the roots alive, feed with a half dose of veg ferti with some N, and put her back in the veg room under more light. It may take a few weeks and growth will be weird at best, but it will all grow once cloned and turn out just like the beautiful mother.

 

[greenforce]

Right on, that sounds like the ticket to me. One question, Should I decapitate the main stalk above that 10% ? Thanks

 

[KingKush]

10% is just a guideline to make sure you leave SOMETHING. meaning just leave some growing parts available to photsynthesize. It might just be a single limb that has a few wispy nuglets but the more you leave the greater your success will be. You will read the plant, it's not complicated to get your nugs and then keep it alive.
The most important thing is to keep your roots alive. It's fine to use plain water leading up to harvest and also dry out the soil but don't go any further than when you would normally water.
This is a common technique to find phenotypes. For me, I had a crop with 5 strains and I ended up with a pile of seeds (about 20.) I had no idea what the genetics were so I labeled them A-G. I kept my best 2 growing phenotypes this way.

So I took some clones off a wk5 budding plant. They have roots!!! I pulled one up today to check and it was rooted. So try it. I just dip in clonex gel and stick in a solo cup with soil. Put them in my cheap humidome and under my regular veg light for about 2 weeks now. It takes FOREVER, but works.

 

[KingKush]

I just re read your first post, it looks like you are on the right track. Your "prop off a blummer" will be fine if you just wait it out. As long as it's not dead you are doing great!

 

[DingusKhan]

Going to cut a few wastrel buds tonight and see how it goes.

 

[DingusKhan]

Here's a little experiment: I've have moderate success with cutting clones from plants in veg, but after rereading GWE tutorials, I think one of my problems is I'm cutting clones too small. I used to like to keep them in a rotisserie chicken container from costco, which limits me to very short cuttings. This comes from GWE's tutorials, a few YouTubers and my head.

PLEASE: I love corrective feedback. Where there's room for improvement, please share. I don't know if this will work.

I went ahead and cut a few clones from Death Star, she is around 8 weeks in flower. I'm not sure, but I know it's WAY over 3 weeks, and I think she's got about a month to go (I'm not very particular about specific dates). I selected smaller branchlets that still had a green, healthy fan leaves, and the least mature looking buds. I cut just below a node at an angle (Harley at NPK University doesn't think the angle matters) and drop the cutting in a glass of water until I get to my work table.

Many teachers say to trim off the lower branches and leaves and cut the bigger fan leaves in half to reduce moisture loss, and then strip off a little of the cambium (skin). Some of these I cut off scissors. If you snap and strip down, it will peel a skinny strip of the cambium, probably doing that work for you.

The weednerds suggest using Aloe Vera. I use a cut aloe leaf like a tiny ketchup pack of gel. I stab a chopstick down into the aloe to create a hole into which I poke the stem until it is covered with the aloe gel. I also use the chopstick to pre-poke the rooter-plug and make a hole that goes all the way through to the bottom.

I got a jar of cloning powder, and rather than dip the stems into the bottle, I poked some pinholes in the top to use it like a shaker, and dusted the stem like powdered donuts, and then inserted the stems down into their hosts, and placed them in the humidity dome, which will live on a heating pad set to 82F.

From here, I will follow Mr. Green's schedule of clone care for the opening of vent holes, etc, and let you all know how this goes. I hope some of you try this too so we can compare results.

 

[KingKush]

Got roots off a budding wk5 plant. Not sure if they will make it still but one looks promising (1/6)
the one in the back is all green and perky
These are like 2 weeks old

 

[DingusKhan]

That's awesome KingKush! So it's good to see cloning successful 5 weeks out. It will be a while, but I will update with my little ones. Have you tried cloning in other media, like jiffy pellets or rapid rooters? Did you arrive at soil by eliminating other methods?

 

[KingKush]

Puncture the bottoms of the solo cups and use soil from the bag.
I usually cut my sprig down to 5", cut away everything on bottom so I have a 3" bare stalk and dip in the cloning solution so there's 2" sticking above the soil, that way nothing falls over . Dip em and stick em. I use clonex gel.
Water from the bottom only. Flood the tray so the cups can wick a small amount because your soil shoild be dry at this point.
Put the dome too on and stick it in the corner of the veg room.
Not much else to say about it, I came to here because it's simple and basic, but kinda started with using rockwool cubes on top of
soil, then used just soil. Dont have to worry about nutes in water either.

I tried Rockwool cubes to no avail by themselves After reading Nebula's 2¢ I decided not to use them again, ever. I have a drain project I should throw the rest in... That, or stuff them in the wall with some insulation I guess... yuck.

Rapid Rooters look handy enough for me to try out soon, but never tried them yet.

 

[DingusKhan]

Cool, thanks. I've had the same poor experience with rockwool, so I have an almost whole flat of cubes that I may try again, but insulating the grow room also sounds like a good home for them.

I've had good luck with Rapid Rooters and Jiffy Pellets. Now, I'm using a different brand of rapid rooter thing whose name I don't remember. They are a little bigger and softer, but don't seem to stay as saturated as rapid rooters. They are also wider and flatter on top, so when you set them upside down, they stand up better than rapid rooters.