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COCO COIR Frankie Goes To Hollywood
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Bluey
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Moved the room around a bit today for better light across the young photos.
Finished the aeroponics cloner, currently running 25% iso diluted with water, fire extinguisher on standby, through it. They are not misters but more droplets that spray, didn't have the pressure off the pump to run the good brass misters, probably get clogged anyway.
Below is the OZ x photo, really healthy but N looks like it is creeping up so I'll drop the calmag back.
EC 1.6 Veg + calmag + Si DLI 42 pH 5.9 Temps now 25â°C to 26.5â°C day 23â°C night RH 50% to 60% averaging 54% VPD around 1.1 to 1.2 Will be cloning this with 5 cuttings in a few hours after a few joints. Needs a big haircut, not woody so should be a joy to train 🤞
The autos were leggy below. Stretched a bit.
pH 6.15 EC 2.2 bloom + ½ Si + ⅓ calmag on 3 but the little N poisoned one just bloom at 2.2. Cal deficiency showing to varying degrees from minor on a dozen leaves now to a couple of fingers on the others. DLI 40 to 44 inc supp red 660nm 24W & 730nm 6W
WW x photo pH 5.95 EC Veg 1.4 + Si + calmag First runoff PPFD 460 calmag foliar spray EC 0.2 pH 6.6
Sativa photo only one of 10 to germinate below pH 5.95 EC 0.8 with foliar a/a PPFD 360
Finished the aeroponics cloner, currently running 25% iso diluted with water, fire extinguisher on standby, through it. They are not misters but more droplets that spray, didn't have the pressure off the pump to run the good brass misters, probably get clogged anyway.
Below is the OZ x photo, really healthy but N looks like it is creeping up so I'll drop the calmag back.
EC 1.6 Veg + calmag + Si DLI 42 pH 5.9 Temps now 25â°C to 26.5â°C day 23â°C night RH 50% to 60% averaging 54% VPD around 1.1 to 1.2 Will be cloning this with 5 cuttings in a few hours after a few joints. Needs a big haircut, not woody so should be a joy to train 🤞
The autos were leggy below. Stretched a bit.
pH 6.15 EC 2.2 bloom + ½ Si + ⅓ calmag on 3 but the little N poisoned one just bloom at 2.2. Cal deficiency showing to varying degrees from minor on a dozen leaves now to a couple of fingers on the others. DLI 40 to 44 inc supp red 660nm 24W & 730nm 6W
WW x photo pH 5.95 EC Veg 1.4 + Si + calmag First runoff PPFD 460 calmag foliar spray EC 0.2 pH 6.6
Sativa photo only one of 10 to germinate below pH 5.95 EC 0.8 with foliar a/a PPFD 360
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No3odiesShad0w
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Is it worth all the fuss with the aeroponics cloner? I've looked at those before out of curiosity but never wanted to try them. Too many different possible points of failure for my liking. Just fascinating now many different ways we can get plants to grow.
Bluey
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Dropped the EC from 1.6 to 1.1/1.2 on the OZ x I am about to Clone from, pH 6.0. No calmag or Si
Autos are now getting EC 2.2 bloom ¼Si no calmag. Calcium deficiency spreading but can't give calcium nitrate. I'm wondering if so little runoff may have lead to a nitrate overdose for them? I wonder if it follows a calcium deficiency? I did keep veg nutes pretty strong to them during the stretch, might have overdone it there. I need to test some calcium chelates with my nutes, mag will use the epsom salts if needed.
Two autos are packing the buds on now, first brown pistols on one. Stunted N toxic one won't produce much and the mutant I chemically topped is playing catchup, it's buds quite a bit behind time wise as they are slow to grow, much smaller than the other 2. Giving all autos runoff now too and large photo also.
Sativa seedling is a bit light green for my liking will up the EC some.
No nute burn on any.
Autos are now getting EC 2.2 bloom ¼Si no calmag. Calcium deficiency spreading but can't give calcium nitrate. I'm wondering if so little runoff may have lead to a nitrate overdose for them? I wonder if it follows a calcium deficiency? I did keep veg nutes pretty strong to them during the stretch, might have overdone it there. I need to test some calcium chelates with my nutes, mag will use the epsom salts if needed.
Two autos are packing the buds on now, first brown pistols on one. Stunted N toxic one won't produce much and the mutant I chemically topped is playing catchup, it's buds quite a bit behind time wise as they are slow to grow, much smaller than the other 2. Giving all autos runoff now too and large photo also.
Sativa seedling is a bit light green for my liking will up the EC some.
No nute burn on any.
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SoOrbudgal
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No3odiesShad0w
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Ah cool then I'll def keep a close watch. I'm curious about it
No3odiesShad0w
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Telling you man. That's why you need that calcium carbonate. Remember all my plants with the nitrogen toxicity? That's all because of the nitrogen in the call mag. When I switched to the carbonate version it made a WORLD of difference.
Bluey
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No3odiesShad0w I may have found a micro chelated solution in powder form I can add to my water. I need to run some tests on it with my nutes and see how it holds up
Bluey
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Built a low pressure cloning bucket.
5 cuts from OZ x
PPFD 110 pH 5.8 EC 0.3 Sprayer off 20min on 1 min dual air stones
Removed fan leaves temp 25â°C RH 54%
Cut on angle removed little strip's of skin above cut, dipped in cloning agent
OZ x , been given a huge haircut, EC back up to 1.5
will train in a few days and cut again soon
and all in 1
5 cuts from OZ x
PPFD 110 pH 5.8 EC 0.3 Sprayer off 20min on 1 min dual air stones
Removed fan leaves temp 25â°C RH 54%
Cut on angle removed little strip's of skin above cut, dipped in cloning agent
OZ x , been given a huge haircut, EC back up to 1.5
will train in a few days and cut again soon
and all in 1
Rootsruler
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Looking good!
No3odiesShad0w
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Some nice looking tendrils there
Bluey
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Mixed up a flower nute mix with some chelated micros in it. Added 3 1grms powder to two litres of water for an EC 0.8. Then added that to my regular bloom nute mix, total 15ltrs, of EC 1.8, total EC 1.8. pH 6.03
Added 450ml of it after 650ml feed of 2.1EC bloom to the two front ones, the worst cal deficient and the mutant...see what happens. Can go much stronger on the micro
Added 450ml of it after 650ml feed of 2.1EC bloom to the two front ones, the worst cal deficient and the mutant...see what happens. Can go much stronger on the micro
Bluey
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8 hours after mixing pH dropped to 5.97. Not surprising as the mix was about 4.8 prior to adding K²CO³ so had to bring it up a long way. See if it settles in range or goes so far out of wack it becomes unusable. Have given it to all 4 autos now in the normal course of fertigation.
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Bluey
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Gave the nute mix w/trace elements a really good stir as sediment visible on bottom of tank and pH read at 6.02 so mix is stable. Feeding to all autos now EC 1.8. Will use the trace element suppliment on the photos prior to flip instead of calmag nitrate suppliment and throughout flower now moving forwards.
Fingers crossed it's not binding with base nutes and locking them out. It's got a bit of everything in it but mostly calcium carbonate 10% (%W/W)and sulphur as sulphates 6.3% and the rest as chelates and sulphates, Mg 3.6%, Mn 2.9%, Fe 2.7%, Cu 1.3%, Zn 1%, B as Borate 0.1% & Mo as Molydate 0.004%🤞
Fingers crossed it's not binding with base nutes and locking them out. It's got a bit of everything in it but mostly calcium carbonate 10% (%W/W)and sulphur as sulphates 6.3% and the rest as chelates and sulphates, Mg 3.6%, Mn 2.9%, Fe 2.7%, Cu 1.3%, Zn 1%, B as Borate 0.1% & Mo as Molydate 0.004%🤞