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Ya I contacted the seed bank where I got my seeds and they say that there both nl, but different phenotypes. I'm not sure how that works out so whatever. As for smell, they are smelling up the box and that may just be the other plant not the true nl. I hope those clones pull through and give me another chance to get another NL plant going.

yeah with 2 phenotypes 1 could take after 1 parent more then the other.
and like I said , they clone so easy a make your cut on an angle scrape the stalk a bit, 1 good glob of clones stick it in your growin medium they should take off right away
 
4b, Don't stick buds up your nose!!! It might get stuck and you'd have to go to the hospital to have it removed, and how the heck would you explain that???!!! ;-}
 
Thanks. I have looked over the GWE site alot during all this and it has helped me quite a bit. Of course one of the things it says under reasons for not to defoliate is if you're new to growing. Which I am. I know that it says that so you don't go in there all willy nilly cutting parts off the plants you shouldn't. That's why I asked here just to have some backup. So thank you.
 
Bear, I definitely see defoliation as an art--that I am trying to master. As I just posted on another thread, sometimes I have to sit there and look at the plants for a while, let my sight adjust to what's going on, and then start to snip where bud sites are being blocked from the light. Sometimes I need to snip on a daily basis, depending on how vigorously the plants are growing.
 
I agree completely with atu. My next defol will be better because of her recommendations.
 
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Bear, the different phenotypes is like the way that siblings are different; 2 plants of the same strain will express different characteristics, like the way one kid can look just like a parent and the other kid looks nothing like either parent.
 
That is the other thing about these plants. The one that looks like a sativa plant is bigger and bushier than the other one, and the other one is being a pain in the ass to grow and not as big. So now I don't know what the hell is going on. The littler plant is also really sticky to the touch and the other one is not. I have taken a couple clones off each plant and the two from the sativa looking plant are doing good and the other two clones not so good. It has only been a few days since I cut the clones so still waiting to see what happens.
 
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I always think of them like siblings, same parents but none of my four kids look, grow or act the same. Frustrating but it is what it is.
 
Okay so I've been looking at all the different nutrients for Hydroponics. I read through all the suggestions on the grow weed easy site and am currently using the General Hydroponics nutrients. I was wondering if this bag of nutes would work just as well or not? My grower is using this on there General Garden like tomatoes peppers and so on, so I was wondering if it work just as good on my plants?
 
@bakedbear

I think most folks will say to use cannabis-specific nutrients. I'm no expert on those three numbers after a plant food, but I know that they stand for percentages of nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium, always in that order. You need more nitrogen during the grow phase of weed than you do during the flower phase, so check this out as an example:

General Hydroponics
Flora Grow for vegging: 2-1-6

Flora Bloom for flowering: 0-5-4

As you can see, these numbers look NOTHING LIKE the tomato fertilizer, which would prolly do bad things to your plants.

Growing weed does not come cheaply, now that everyone's jumping on the legalization bandwagon and jacking up the prices. I believe, however, that we save money in the end (by not having to buy from someone else), AND we get better quality. I think there are some decent inexpensive cannabis nutes on Ebay...
 
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hey baked bear how is the clone thing working for you did you find you had enough room to save the clone.when I top a plant I let it get 5 or 6 nodes then cut it back to the node with the best set of growth stems in the 3rd picture you can see the stems Im talking about they are about 1 inch long I have found that if you cut it where it already has new growth then it doesn't slow the plant down the first and second pictures are of my defoliation after reading neb. tutorial and they are still alive and thriving .My birds are up so I need to cut this short any questions feel free to ask looking good otherwise
 

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The first clones we took did not make it. We have cut another clone from it and going to see what happens. Worst case we have to use some more of the seeds I have instead of just using clones. Yeah your clone looks good.
 
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