MagicMike66
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I remove any fans that are bigger than my hand
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gbauto
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All I can offer is that it's going to get VERY crowded with that many plants flowering in a 4x4.
This is my 4x4 pheno tent with 5 testers in 3-gal fabric bags running coco.
They were started in 3qt pots, grown tall enough to top them at the 3rd node for a clone, and flipped to 12/12 to sex them.
They were about 6" tall when flipped, with 6 stems.
This was a week ago,
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ztJL5q3bJXoDZLP79
Honestly, the only way I could manage that plant count would be a SCROG, but access would be a challenge.
If I was using a 4x4 for my space, it would have 2 nice pheno's trellised out to fill the canopy.
I would yield at least 24 oz dried from that setup.
This is my 4x4 pheno tent with 5 testers in 3-gal fabric bags running coco.
They were started in 3qt pots, grown tall enough to top them at the 3rd node for a clone, and flipped to 12/12 to sex them.
They were about 6" tall when flipped, with 6 stems.
This was a week ago,
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ztJL5q3bJXoDZLP79
Honestly, the only way I could manage that plant count would be a SCROG, but access would be a challenge.
If I was using a 4x4 for my space, it would have 2 nice pheno's trellised out to fill the canopy.
I would yield at least 24 oz dried from that setup.
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KosarZiga
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Hello everyone.
It's been a month since i planted my girls.
As many of you mentioned ( crunchyfrog, MagicMike66 , SoOrbudgal , gbauto, dphipps1020 ) , 9 plants gets crowded indeed.
I already topped them and started quadlining as suggested.
I also removed older big fan leaves since new one really started to shade them.
So my question is.
Is it a time to start 12/12 cycle?
I really don't have any idea how much growth i can expect while flowering.
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Also when to stop doing lst and let them start growing up?
When main branches reach outside of their pots?
And what about scrog?
Would it take longer to veg and/or would increase yeald in your opinion?
Excess to the back is a little bit problematic for training for scrog, but i have an idea how to build a bridge to lie on and do the trading, if this would be better technic.
Pics show before after today's defoliation and additional lst.
Thank you very much for answers and suggestions.
It's been a month since i planted my girls.
As many of you mentioned ( crunchyfrog, MagicMike66 , SoOrbudgal , gbauto, dphipps1020 ) , 9 plants gets crowded indeed.
I already topped them and started quadlining as suggested.
I also removed older big fan leaves since new one really started to shade them.
So my question is.
Is it a time to start 12/12 cycle?
I really don't have any idea how much growth i can expect while flowering.
​​​​​​
Also when to stop doing lst and let them start growing up?
When main branches reach outside of their pots?
And what about scrog?
Would it take longer to veg and/or would increase yeald in your opinion?
Excess to the back is a little bit problematic for training for scrog, but i have an idea how to build a bridge to lie on and do the trading, if this would be better technic.
Pics show before after today's defoliation and additional lst.
Thank you very much for answers and suggestions.
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SoOrbudgal
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Training look real good 
so those are 30+days from seed. I would do 6wks old 12/12. They will recover from what you did and will have stronger bud sites. I'm not a fan of scrog i did one 1x found it difficult to treat the back plants so no more. You will not believe how much bigger they will get in 2 wks. That 1st pic those bud sites will turn upwards and stretch outward. And i feed them grow nutes until i see pre flower but that's me. Good luck were here to help.
so those are 30+days from seed. I would do 6wks old 12/12. They will recover from what you did and will have stronger bud sites. I'm not a fan of scrog i did one 1x found it difficult to treat the back plants so no more. You will not believe how much bigger they will get in 2 wks. That 1st pic those bud sites will turn upwards and stretch outward. And i feed them grow nutes until i see pre flower but that's me. Good luck were here to help.
gbauto
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It's really going to depend on the strains you're running.
Just as an example, this is my upstairs grow.
The 1st trellis is 13" above the lid and the 2nd is 13" above the 1st trellis.
They were flipped to flower when they reached the 1st net and after about 30 days, they are at 3' above the lid.
It will get VERY crowded in there if you wait much longer.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWY9H6dXERreGGeEA
Just as an example, this is my upstairs grow.
The 1st trellis is 13" above the lid and the 2nd is 13" above the 1st trellis.
They were flipped to flower when they reached the 1st net and after about 30 days, they are at 3' above the lid.
It will get VERY crowded in there if you wait much longer.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rWY9H6dXERreGGeEA
KosarZiga
New member
Switched to 12/12.
I defoliated upper leaves to let light reach smaller buds.
Shouldn't be to much defoliatied to stun the growth?
​​​​Pics 1 and 2.
And another important questions.
Is it required to remove any of the buds sites, to prevent overcrowding on one branch?
Picture 3.
What to do with bud site 2. Will it grow upside, from bottom?
And what about 4 and 5.
When they get a bit bigger, train them a bit, to grow a bit further from each other?
Also, what to do with tiny bud sites under main bud 1, those with questionmark?
I defoliated upper leaves to let light reach smaller buds.
Shouldn't be to much defoliatied to stun the growth?
​​​​Pics 1 and 2.
And another important questions.
Is it required to remove any of the buds sites, to prevent overcrowding on one branch?
Picture 3.
What to do with bud site 2. Will it grow upside, from bottom?
And what about 4 and 5.
When they get a bit bigger, train them a bit, to grow a bit further from each other?
Also, what to do with tiny bud sites under main bud 1, those with questionmark?
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