SOIL Disabled, senior female noob > LEDs. Have many questions, made mistakes, need advice

[Mr.furley]

Puglover1

Drill holes all around just below the pot rim and put a zip tie there to anchor to, a couple of sticks laying horizontal on top of the pot overhanging will give you reach, tie branches to branches.....


think of the blue line as a tabletop and you what to keep all the branches like the ones with the red line at that level, pull them down slowly, a little at a time, This will need to continue into flowering for a bit. Read up on super cropping
https://www.growweedeasy.com/cannabis-plant-training


Do you have a indoor gardening shop for nutrients supplies?

Your Leafs look a good color of green that I can see, some tips burn and I'm assuming this is on the upper part of the plant? I can see some pale , yellow, brown leaf, on the lower plant and I'm think that this is from the plant not getting light a common problem with bigger, tall plant and not enough light reaching it with all that leaf it had. Some of this can be a pH issue have you got any readings?

The plant will take any mobile nutrient it can from those leafs down low so for now don't remove any more leaf from the plants, you can do another defoliating in two weeks.

 

[Puglover1]

Hi, thanks. Busy w/post-storm issues. I fed them fully and they looked good. I've read the training links many times, I've hand-flattened/bent to see what I've got, more pliable than expected. The new rod and both LED panels are hung, need to adjust them, but, should I remove the bottom shelf, will it distort light when both panels are above the shelf? Should I remove the fluorescent fixtures standing in the R corner? I got the Twisty Ties, and I can use an ice pick to make holes in the pot lips (injured R hand/drill). I do not have an indoor garden shop, I get growing supplies from Amazon/prime, other than Epsom salt, fish emulsion and the like. Should I keep temp/RH gauge up on a shelf or low on the floor? Lastly, for now, where is the best spot to attach the ties, meaning I know not by the main stem but how far from it or how far from the tips? Depends on where I can anchor them, or nah? I understand the sticks thing. It's going to be like a puzzle with all 3 in there but I'm good at 'fitting' things in spaces. (weak photo, sorry, I have to use a step stool to reach above the plants now. I need to put supplies in a crate on the floor, try not to bump the panels much)

 

[Mr.furley]

I would remove the shelf as you are going to still fill the closest and don't want to block the light when the lights go higher, the one in the corner is probably ok to stay,. Temperature and humidity should be monitor at the top of the canopy, and tie to the second set of Nodes back from the tip of the branch.

It's time to flip your lights to 12/12 for flower, once you do that, do not disturb their dark cycle and start watching clothes for female preflower. At the age your plant are they should be showing already.

https://www.growweedeasy.com/preflowers

 

[Puglover1]

Thank you. Should I order GH Bloom now? Do you think I'll need a quart or larger? Here is a close up yesterday, any pre-flowers? After a dr appt today I'll have a day for the plants.

 

[SoOrbudgal]

I don't see any pre flower but once you flip to 12/12 it will be evident quick like Mr.furley said. If that's the bloom food you want to use order it and take it easy good luck at Dr. appt.

 

[Puglover1]

Thank you. I'm open to feeding suggestions. I wait until things are needed because of Prime delivery. That was saved on my wishlist but I've never bought GH products before, just word of mouth, and everything evolves. What do you use? Sorry, I just got home, hopped on the laptop or I'd go looking for the answer to that question.

 

[Mr.furley]

Get the trio
General Hydroponics Flora Grow, Bloom, Micro Combo Fertilizer set, 1 quarts each
Or fox farm Trio grow big, big bloom And Tigar bloom.

 

[Puglover1]

I ordered the GH trio, and a thick, black, long shower curtain to hang over the closet door light cracks. Where I cut the plant tops and hand bent, for now, are those new shoots on top good to use for clones? I want to put clones in the Aero-Garden to start, the seeds germinated well in it. Thanks!

 

[Mr.furley]

Pick any 5 to 6 inch branch that is soft, preferably lower/middle on the plant, lower branches can root faster but you can take some off the top.

 

[Puglover1]

I nute-watered plants early this morning, made a gallon for each, pH was 6.6-6.7 going in. They weren't draining yet, I had to leave soon. I had one more gallon of de-chlorinated water nearby that I pH'd to 6.5 and divided it among the three. Tested drainage on two, it was 6.5x. My tower fan died. Nephew is going to help tmrw afternoon to remove the screwed-in shelf and drill holes in the pot rims. I could use each shelf bracket next to the walls for clip-on fans. My GH trio won't be here for 6-7 days. I have CalMag, fish emulsion and Flower Fuel here. What would you suggest feeding while waiting on the GH, after I go 12/12 this weekend? TYSM!

 

[growell]

ye carry on feeding o and just put of switch for a couple of days

 

[Mr.furley]

The choice is feed them what you have for now,
Recent pictures are really Important when talking about what a plant may need. PH is fine with what you have for now.

 

[Puglover1]

Slacker here. I got the shelf removed, panels in place, pot rim holes made, fans clipped on the clothes rod and I kept them fed & watered. Had a busy week then two days of down time with pain. I watered/fed them tonight so they'd be more pliable tmrw. I tied some of the middle plant with twisty ties, leaving some slack - it's not easy twisting those ends when you can't bend your fingers on one hand. Q's: Do I have the fan at the right angle/placement? High or low speed? On 24/7? After tying down the ends to the pot rim, if it seems like they're pulling on the main stem do I twisty them around the main? I also have the coated wire and plant zip ties here. My closet is 24-26" deep, right now the middle plant front ends are resting against the closet door when I close it. I'll pull each one out to work on tmrw then fit them back inside. That tall one in back on the middle plant that I haven't tied yet is as thick as the main stem. Any advice or drawings/diagrams are welcome. TY.

 

[Mr.furley]

Your plant are looking a lot better, remember that the goal is to tie the tops down to keep the plant as short as possible. Leave the fan on 24/7 low or medium should be sufficient. I see some kind of discoloration on a couple leafs in the middle, let's look at that next, can you tell me a little bit about it? Close up picture?

Did you flip to 12/12?

 

[Puglover1]

I had to start somewhere it's so big and full, I couldn't see what I was working with. The lights were going out in 90 minutes so I stopped for tonight when the lights turned off. I'm working on tops tmrw. I wanted to get the tops tied down before I flipped, I want to flip. Received the GH trio, used grow and micro tonight. So, when I get the tops tied, flip to 12/12, then do I start using micro & bloom right away? Ease in, or go by bottle chart for amounts? I'll be using all the lights - grow & bloom switches - it's going to be hotter in there after that. I took these photos last Saturday. Yes, I have questions about a few leaves. And here's a photo before I tied anything, I had to wait a week for nephew to help with removing the shelf and hanging the panels. I could separate the panels a little more from mid-center but the one on the right is sitting on the extra long/strong shower curtain rod just to the left of where it adjusts, is thinner. I removed the one fluorescent fixture. I can move my rock/water humidity saucer from the L corner and put it between two pots, if it makes more space for the greenery to fit together. Is it 'normal' to need more pH Down when using GH products versus my fish emulsion & cal-mag? That took 3x tonight to get right or I would've gotten more done. The leaves last weekend, I wasn't sure if light burn or what that is. I had a few lighter small ones come off because I was 12 hrs late watering.

 

[Mr.furley]

I would recommend Flipping that light A.S.A.P you will still need to tie down the plants for 3 weeks after and don't want to run out of vertical space, The leaf problem is potassium deficiency so that needs to be addressed. Yes changing nutrient lines will result in a need to adjust the Ph down.

 

[growell]

use the bloom as well follow bottle use half strengh first couple of waters u will use more ph down about 1ml every 3litres water plus your ppm and ec will rocket with these nutes i use them hope this helps

 

[Puglover1]

I flipped on 9/1. No new bad leaves tonight, got the middle's top tied, I had to stop when the lights went out. I have two days this weekend to finish them, it's a jungle in there. I set it for 7-7 (north-central Illinois), does that sound like the best hours to choose?

 

[Mr.furley]

Looks good, if that schedule works best for you over the next 2 to 3 months then it's prefect. Do some reading onda defoliating over the next week, you are going to want to do this about week three of flower.
https://www.growweedeasy.com/nebulas-flowering-stage-defoliation-tutorial

 

[Mr.furley]

I would like to add that if over the next couple months that schedule isn't going to be ideal for you to keep, it's not a good idea to change it mid-flower but can be done just change the timer in there dark period so they spend more time in the dark and not a longer lights on. I would not recommend it if you can help it.