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Decarb.... big surprise to me

Farmall

Farmall

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While I’ve heard or read about decarboxalation and how it’s necessary for edibles, and cooking with medicine but, here’s a surprise for me.

A forum friend and mentor recommended I look into an Ardent Nova decarb machine. So, while I’m waiting, I am getting a bunch of emails and information about why this process is necessary for ANY form of consumption. Amidst of claims of a significantly improved quality of use, it also increases the availability of THC in the product .....again for ANY FORM of consumption.

in 1968 we were happy to grab a baggie full of seeds and stems and enjoy. Sometimes we’re were really freaking wasted. I don’t even think the word decarboxalation was coined yet.

Is there a general consensus about the validity of this claim? And if so, I can’t imagine how potentcy has changed
 
Call me crazy but wouldn't the process of combusting your weed during smoking do the decarbing? I'd guess that if you plan on smoking it there is no need for decarboxilation. For edibles on the other hand I'd completely agree.
 
I shouldn’t have read this post lol but what I think Farmall is saying is that back in the day people made pot brownies that were definitely effective but was it actually decarbed beforehand? Because as he said, “ I don’t even think the word decarboxilation was coined yet” which I doubt it was. Or that anybody back then new that much about it if at all. So how did the brownies/edibles work???
 
Adding an amount of heat decarbs the product. Yes, smoking is one way to decarb. When making butter... the heat used in the process decarbs.
Curing is a form of decarbing. It is a slow enough process where it doesn’t vaporize terpenes. And curing doesn’t decarb 100% of the product.
 
Bakeing brownies with dry weed at 350 for a average of 40 min, try Betty Crocker family size and a oz. of bud that should decarb it, alright... sure dident hurt 👍
 
That's how we did it in the 70's. mix some weed in when you stir it up, pour into pan and cook as the directions say. Be careful it's potent and lasts a long time.
 
When y’all get a free moment, go to their web site and check out some of that information..it seems to be saying, by decarbing when you DO smoke, it will have much more available thc and subsequently more potent. They also say it is irrelevant on how you will use it and DECARBING just makes it better. This isn’t cannabutter, tincture or extraction... it says it is essentially a heat treatment process that increases THC availability.

Vaporizing, as described on the Ghost MV-1 web, says that the vaporized used product is not ash as it would be by straight smoking as it is a much lower temp then burning.

My belief as a result of this “revelation” is any and all material should be decarbed as it just makes any of it a more superior product.

Am I lost in the ozone? I will be delving into this deeply because if it is fact.... wow. . . but I would sure love having a real lab test justify this. Hoping some might have some clue
 
Oh I see what you’re saying now. Makes since I guess. Making them more readily available. Terpenoids and what not. Maybe. Be nice to know for sure you got that right.
 
So if you check out lab test results you will see two things that are of interest here. THC and THC-A. The plant creates THC-A (it’s an acid). Drying and curing converts some of the THC-A into THC (activates it).
Yes, more active THC does lead to more euphoria.... but putting a flame or heating coil to THC-A also decarbs it into THC. A minimal amount remains unconverted after this process.
During the decarb process, something else happens... terpenes vaporize. The desired flavor vaporizes at a much lower temperature in comparison.
So if you decarb prior to smoking... you will enhance the THC while removing desired terpenes that give us that flavorful smoke we love.
 
Back in the day we called it toasting, and did it on top of the stove in a dry pan (yes it was easy to f up), brownies turned out very good, as long as you didn't burn the weed in the pan,,,!
 
I have tried smoking what was decarbed, what I found was the taste was killed, the high was the same (if any dif it was not noticeable)
 
The Ardent Nova is a precision machine that will not evaporate terpenes, and the bud comes out of it still quite pliable, a beautiful brown/gold color with incredible aromas. It's like the Nova performs a 2 hour cure--I really think that's what it does.

Farmall I'd be interested in reading the information you refer to: I never read on ARdent's website that decarbing in the Nova makes the bud more potent, which would mean that it does do the same thing as curing, which is to continue converting some of the precursor cannabinoids to THC. Can you send me a link?

THC requires heat to become psychoactive. You can read about decarboxylation in a million places. When you combust, you burn away a lot of the good stuff, which is why vaping is much more efficient than smoking (use less and extract more chemicals rather than burn them up). Smoking, ancient custom that it is, is the least efficient way of getting high. I'm not saying it doesn't work: it just isn't as efficient at extracting chemicals as vaping and other forms of ingestion.
 
uncledoug Yes!! I've left some of my Nov. harvest curing, traded some to friends and decarbed some to use. My weed buddy loves the decarb and swears by its increased potency. It gets me high too, but I can only compare it to some fresh bud I tried after it dried, which was pretty harsh.

OGKush and NL been curing for 8 weeks now; I'm shooting for 12 weeks and then I'll try it. But everything I'm vaping right now has been decarbed.
 
Hey Alltatup, thanks for helping to clarify this.... I’ll send you the place I read this.. Also, it takes 2-3 weeks for shipping unless you pay the expedited shipping which negates the $30.00 discount..
 
I've been looking into the Nova, but price is the question (now that the IRS is basically closed, who knows when or if I get a refund this year). I might try a small amount in my Decarbox/oven and see what happens...our oven can be wonky with temps so I guess the question there is how much of my harvests(s) do I want to gamble that way? I remember in college a buddy used to decarb in a microwave but I've heard not-great things about that method.
 
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