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Crap! She’s trying to claw me!

Robear

Robear

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Well it looks like the noob mistake of planting her in Miracle Gro (Mackerel Grool) has finally started to bite me in the butt. And right on schedule at 7 weeks into bloom like it happened to BillBates. I just noticed the clawing this afternoon when I went to check on her before the end of her day. i was hoping the long veg might have depleted the soil enough to minimize nitro toxicity but nope. I wish I was far enough along to harvest a bit early, but she seems to be a long blooming strain. She was a bagseed my darling daughter planted and gave to me.

I dont know what what else to do besides give her a thorough flushing in the morning with ph’d RO water. If anyone has any other suggestions I’m all ears.
 

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It's gotta run out of nutrient eventually, right? Thankfully, mine isn't in mg soil. Mine's in this stuff called Black Gold that I got at the Ace Hardware store. So at least I was able to quit the nutes just in time. Someone will weigh in who knows more than I. Since I had already scheduled my flush, it turned out not so bad. I'd say pHed water & water with molasses every 3rd watering. That's what I'm running to when I'm in trouble for now.
 
It looks really minor so far, so hopefully it can be managed. I would recommend a flushing agent. I am not sure that it will really knock out the heat of the MG soil, but it should be more effective than plain RO water. Sledgehammer or Florakleen.
 
There you go Robear.... you come to THIS forum with a problem & by god you'll get a solution. Flushing agent.... I'd have never guessed there was such a thing
 
Hey Robear, I've seen nitrogen toxicity, the claw a whole lot worse than that.
Where it was dark, dark green. And every leaf tip ,looked just like a fish hook., lol
Thats about all you can do is try to flush it out, good luck with that. Lol
I forget the name of that stuff, that you buy, that helps clean lots better than just water ,when flushing, but water will help. I sure hope you get it fixed.
 
Isn’t that the truth, Bill. Gotta love this forum.

Thanks for the suggestion, Camp. My daughter is coming out for a visit tomorrow and I think I’ll send her over to the Hydro store to pick some up.
 
In Soil, I would go with "Sledgehammer" because it is Yucca based and has additional benefits beyond flushing. For one, it is a surficant, which lowers the surface tension of water and allows plants easier access to it. This is helpful, because the clawing is caused by the plant struggling to get water in the presence of high N.
Sledgehammer link: http://a.co/7iQAyHJ

In Coco, I use Florakleen, and it is also a very effective flushing agent. But it doesn't have any other features, it is just a flush.
Florakleen link: http://a.co/hVSVqOo

Florakleen is cheaper, but sledgehammer is worth it
 
Thanks, D.A.A.S. Camp gave me a couple of suggestions and I’m going to try it.

Im sure I’m paranoid because she’s sitting in MG. I’ve been hyperventilating over every little suspicious move she’s made. But I want to be ready in case this progresses. And the flushing agent sounds like a good idea to have around when it comes time for her final flush in a couple of weeks.
 
Sheesh Camp, can we nominate you for sainthood or something? So much knowledge freely and quickly given.

I was going to go with Flora Kleen since I was using GH for my coco grow, but I see I can get a pint of Sledgehammer here locally for just a little more. This is likely to be my only soil grow so I wouldn’t want to purchase a large amount. I’ll ask the daughter to bring home the Sledgehammer.
 
I like that idea, Bill. I was thinking about adding molasses to her feedings and I will once I get her flushed.
 
Flushing a good growing plant is never a good idea.
But if you got to you got to.Lol
Not saying yours is growing good, just saying flushing ain't real good for plants.
Not as bad in coco, but it still takes a toll on the plant.
GoodLuck.
 
Yes, I agree. Flushing in soil should not be done unless it is needed. But if it is needed it should be done.
Using Sledgehammer will dramatically reduce the amount of water needed for an effective flush, which will lessen the impact on the plant, but still.
I am not convinced that your plants are there Robear . Certainly get the Sledgehammer, because it will be helpful at the end if not before.
The clawing looks pretty minor, so you might want to give her a little time under careful supervision - with the flush at the ready.

But up to you, if you are sure she is turning south, go ahead and flush her now.
 
I will definitely wait to see if the problem gets worse before I do anything drastic. I was hoping if anything went south I’d catch it early so I’ve been keeping a very close eye on her. But yes, the sledgehammer sounds like a good idea to have for the final flush.

Thanks everyone for the help.
 
One more thing!
Sledgehammer can be used just as a surficant. It is really pretty cool stuff - Yucca extract
To use as a surficant only, it is just 2 drops per gallon. A truly tiny amount (25 drops = 1ml). I would start doing this right away (whether or not you decide to do a flush, which is 10ml/gallon) and continue throughout the grow in all water. It will help the plant overcome the MG soil. Just two drops!
 
That really sounds useful. I’m glad the daughter is bringing some out tomorrow. BTW is it good for coco as well?
 
That article was very interesting. I just bookmarked the website. Tonight’s reading material.

I’ll be setting my drip system up in a couple of weeks and SM-90 is def on the shopping list. 👍🏻
 
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